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Old 08-22-2014, 09:13 AM   #1
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Bay Hill 379FL vs Solitude 379FL

Hi! We're ready to upgrade to a larger unit. Our family of four will live in it full time while we build a new house, AND we also plan to bring it on the road.

We're looking at the Evergreen Bay Hill 379FL and Grand Design Solitude 379FL. We've been inside both units in the past week -- they're beautiful and have the same exact floor plan. Both units are brand new on the market, so there are very few reviews. Prices are comparable.

The Bay Hill has some nice upgrades (residential fridge {almost a must-have with two teens!}, tankless hot water heater, dishwasher, etc.). From reading this forum, it appears that Bay Hill has quality control issues and that it takes a lot of time to get them resolved.

The Solitude expressly states that it's for extended living. It appears that the folks at Grand Design are very concerned about customer care and their product's reputation.

So, we want a quality unit that will withstand daily use AND traveling. This will literally be our home for a long while!

What would you do? Any thoughts about these two companies and their products would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks so much!

Kathy
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Old 08-22-2014, 12:08 PM   #2
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They are both beautiful coaches! I am almost a new Bay Hill owner and have talked with Bay Hill on their QC issues I read about. They know they've had some issues and I believe they are trying to fix them also from talking with them. I think both manufacturers of this class coach will probably have their issues in my opinion, it just depends on who you talk to as to whether they've had a good or bad experience. After speaking with Bay Hill, I was told they have sold tons of their new coaches, and yes, you read about some BIG horror stories, but you dont read much about the happy customers, makes sense to me. If im happy with my truck, im not on the internet talking about it.......im enjoying it. I think I would call and look into the specs of both units and find out specifics......like what frame size do they use and the the construction details of both. I know the Bay Hill rides on a 12" I-beam and is built for full time/ extended time use, but I cant find what the Solitude frame size is. Then it just boils down to which one you feel more comfortable with. If you have a little bit more to spend, look into the Alpha Gold line by Lifestyle. Same floor plans as the Bay Hill, but built on an in-house built double box frame thats way stronger. But either way, do a long winded full blown pre-delivery inspection of everything and nit pick it to death, and you'll probably get a great coach! Cheers!

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I did just read that the Solitude uses a "high gloss fiberglass" side wall. Just so you know, that construction is not a true gel coat construction, meaning it can oxidize and fade much faster than gel coat. Those are things to look at when comparing Rv's also.
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Not positive, but I believe the frame on the Solitude is a 12" I beam.
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Old 08-22-2014, 10:39 PM   #5
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Bay Hill vs. Solitude

Yes they are the same design, except the Bay Hill has the resiential fridge and dishwasher. Any RV that has a residential fridge also has the additional power converter. The Solitude doesn't have this, but it can be added...Just like you can probably ask your dealer about installing a residential fridge.

I did weeks of research on 5th Wheel RV's before I bought one and I do agree with other comments on the Bay Hill...it is constructed as good any on the market...and probably better than most. All dealers will go through the delivery program with you and you may find some things not hooked up, etc. What I suggest to anyone buying a new RV, especially a new model...is simply tell your dealer (before you agree to buy it) that you would like to live in it for a couple of days...at the dealership! Go through every single system. Operate the slide-outs several times to make sure there's no dragging. Turn on all plumbing items several times...showers and faucet pressure. Many times vent caps are not removed and pressure can be low and slow.

When I was shopping for a toy hauler...I was firmly convinced that I would buy either the Dutchman Voltage, or the Heartland Cyclone. They both have every flute and whistle you could want...but then I started my research and found that both have so many problems. Because of high demand both manufacturers have tried to meet the demand and lost all quality control.

This is a huge issue for either the Bay Hill or Solitude...but in my opinion Evergreen just builds a better "quality" RV. The Evergreen Tesla I bought did not have a residential fridge, but the dealer installed the same fridge as the Bay Hill 379...and it also has the dishwasher...so mama happy!
If you still decide on the Solitude (and it is a good unit) you can probably have the dealer install a residential fridge...not sure about the dishwasher though.

I also agree the Alfa and Lifestyle are slightly heavier built and a little higher quality...mainly to the exterior...but I would have no problem buying the Bay Hill 379 myself...I like them a lot. I think they have the most bang for the buck.

Good luck to ya!
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Yes they are the same design, except the Bay Hill has the resiential fridge and dishwasher. Any RV that has a residential fridge also has the additional power converter. The Solitude doesn't have this, but it can be added...Just like you can probably ask your dealer about installing a residential fridge.

I did weeks of research on 5th Wheel RV's before I bought one and I do agree with other comments on the Bay Hill...it is constructed as good any on the market...and probably better than most. All dealers will go through the delivery program with you and you may find some things not hooked up, etc. What I suggest to anyone buying a new RV, especially a new model...is simply tell your dealer (before you agree to buy it) that you would like to live in it for a couple of days...at the dealership! Go through every single system. Operate the slide-outs several times to make sure there's no dragging. Turn on all plumbing items several times...showers and faucet pressure. Many times vent caps are not removed and pressure can be low and slow.

When I was shopping for a toy hauler...I was firmly convinced that I would buy either the Dutchman Voltage, or the Heartland Cyclone. They both have every flute and whistle you could want...but then I started my research and found that both have so many problems. Because of high demand both manufacturers have tried to meet the demand and lost all quality control.

This is a huge issue for either the Bay Hill or Solitude...but in my opinion Evergreen just builds a better "quality" RV. The Evergreen Tesla I bought did not have a residential fridge, but the dealer installed the same fridge as the Bay Hill 379...and it also has the dishwasher...so mama happy!
If you still decide on the Solitude (and it is a good unit) you can probably have the dealer install a residential fridge...not sure about the dishwasher though.

I also agree the Alfa and Lifestyle are slightly heavier built and a little higher quality...mainly to the exterior...but I would have no problem buying the Bay Hill 379 myself...I like them a lot. I think they have the most bang for the buck.

Good luck to ya!

Off topic but that Tesla is one slick toy hauler!! Nicest hauler I've seen yet and Im not a big toy hauler fan. Congrats!
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Thanks so much, everyone, for your thoughts and advice!

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