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wingnut60 · 10-26-2014, 08:51 AM

" A modern diesel f350 could easily get 80,000 pounds up to 70 mph"

I'd pay money to see this...I have a tuned 450 and if I put 80k behind it, I'd need a new truck before getting to 40, if it got there. Statements like this take any credibility out of a post.

Joe

2000 Damon · 10-26-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wingnut60

" A modern diesel f350 could easily get 80,000 pounds up to 70 mph"

I'd pay money to see this...I have a tuned 450 and if I put 80k behind it, I'd need a new truck before getting to 40, if it got there. Statements like this take any credibility out of a post.

Joe

I also believe that an 80 thousand pound load could be pulled beyond 70 mph with a ford 350 dually. The truck rear axel would be overloaded and the brakes on the 5th wheel flat bad would need to do the majority of the stopping. It wouldn't be legal but no doubt it would pull it.

wingnut60 · 10-26-2014, 06:09 PM

OK, I lose. Please post a video of this whenever someone does it. It will become an instant classic.
Joe

SultanGris · 10-26-2014, 06:56 PM

The f350 has more hp than semi trucks, what's so hard to believe about it? Lol! A half ton tundra pulled the space shuttle, that's like 200000 or I don't even know really. But a guy on foot pulls a semi trailer with his nipples on Ripley believe it or not, getting stuff rolling is easy, stopping it becomes the issue.

2500HD · 10-27-2014, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SultanGris

The f350 has more hp than semi trucks, what's so hard to believe about it? Lol! A half ton tundra pulled the space shuttle, that's like 200000 or I don't even know really. But a guy on foot pulls a semi trailer with his nipples on Ripley believe it or not, getting stuff rolling is easy, stopping it becomes the issue.

What you don't realize is a tractor or semi truck engine be it a c-15 cat or isx cummins may have a similar horsepower number to a pick up say 450hp but the block ISX VS ISB(dodge cummins) is twice the displacement with double the torque. A c-15 or ISX will have torque numbers starting at 1400ftlbs.

Ive been around heavy trucks my entire life and a 237hp Mack engine has around 900ft lbs of torque. So you guys who only know pickup motors cannot compare a large displacement diesels to pickup diesels.

2500HD · 10-27-2014, 05:10 PM

The other thing is a large displacement diesel in a dually pick up would equal the trucks payload and would not even fit in a small truck. its double the size and a completely different ball game. Similar to how guys who run gas trucks can tow the same load as a diesel guy but at a much higher rpm with half the torque

jacknife · 10-27-2014, 06:41 PM

I drive a KW with a 15 liter cummins 485 hp and 1800 lb torque. Your drive line would be wasted before to ever got up to 20. Some of you blue ovel guys are truely brain washed ! The real fun part would be watching you and your wonderful 350 try to stop.l suggest a ejection seat if you find a hill you could roll down with your 80,000
40 tons behind you. Are you kidding me !

caissiel · 10-27-2014, 07:20 PM

The pickup would last 2 miles. I have heard true stories of pickups towing down semis around here and stories are cooked transmissions getting them to towing speed. No Pickups are better suited around 20k lbs.

SultanGris · 10-28-2014, 07:34 AM

Try some reading comprehension. I didn't say you could tow 80000 pounds for a million miles, and i did say stopping would be an issue so your arguing with yourself there, lol

SultanGris · 10-28-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 2500HD

What you don't realize is a tractor or semi truck engine be it a c-15 cat or isx cummins may have a similar horsepower number to a pick up say 450hp but the block ISX VS ISB(dodge cummins) is twice the displacement with double the torque. A c-15 or ISX will have torque numbers starting at 1400ftlbs.

Ive been around heavy trucks my entire life and a 237hp Mack engine has around 900ft lbs of torque. So you guys who only know pickup motors cannot compare a large displacement diesels to pickup diesels.

I do realize that and the powerstroke has around 800ft lbs so yea, it's rolling for sure.

jacknife · 10-28-2014, 08:18 PM

I can comprehend very well thank you. Maybe you can make a Ford commercial towing about 80,000 lbs of your BS.

SultanGris · 10-28-2014, 08:57 PM

Here you go, half ton gasser can even do it, a guy can do it with his nipples, it's not that hard, you should maybe take a physics class, lol

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jG1JZ6E3a78

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6E23kBgDK1c

Ray,IN · 10-31-2014, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1ciderdog

Back around 2000 I had a F250 with the 7.3 diesel and a 36 foot King of the Road and I pulled the 5th wheel. I added air bags to the rear axle because the truck was paid for and I didn't want to buy a bigger truck. The F250 pulled the 5th wheel OK but it sill sat low in the back. After one long trip I upgraded to a heavier duty truck and it was well worth it. So my guess is you can do it but I'd think not the best option. Just my dos centavos.

Me too, been there-done that; only I had a Dodge 2500 CTD. Same results as you.

hone eagle · 11-01-2014, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SultanGris

Here you go, half ton gasser can even do it, a guy can do it with his nipples, it's not that hard, you should maybe take a physics class, lol

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jG1JZ6E3a78

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6E23kBgDK1c

The fed x truck is helping itself ,in truckers ligo 'spun out' ,a bit of grade and very slippery.
I myself have had to get a friends F250 to pull me out of a icey rut,all they need is 1 mph and a few feet and we are free.
Hardly getting a load of 40 tons to highway speed in less then 5 minutes, if a pick up tried to do it at the same rate of acc. it would toast the drive line.
Keep trying