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Old 02-26-2014, 11:47 AM   #1
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Best 5th wheel toy hauler combination

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I am new to the forum and joined to gather and research information for the future purchase of an rv. I am soon to be retired LEO and am looking at purchasing a toy hauler. In search of feedback from members on which is the best way to go. I am thinking a 5th wheel setup towed by a dually diesel as I heard the ride and handling is much better with this set up. Is a tandem or triple axle trailer better ?. I am looking to stay away from a motor home because my theory is if you break down you lose both your transportation and your living quarters. Any feedback on best towing vehicle and opinions on different manufactures of trailers appreciated. For the most part it will just be me and wife and an Harley Ultra in garage area.


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Old 02-26-2014, 12:00 PM   #2
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Hi and welcome. A few more questions. .are you going fulltime or just weekends and extended trips? The answer to this makes a huge difference in the rigs that will be recommended. As for the # of axles that will depend on the size and weight of the coach. You dont really get to choose. Buy generally a TH over 35-36 feet will be a triple axel. I'm a dodge guy so I say get a dodge ram 3500 Cummins dually and never look back. Excel makes a luxury full time 5th wheel toy hauler called Wild Cargo. Congrats on your retirement!

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Old 02-26-2014, 12:37 PM   #3
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You are going to get lots of opinions on this. Excel, Drv, Spacecraft make high dollar luxury toy haulers. Just guessing, but it doesn't sound like you have much rv'ing experience. Do your research on toy haulers, get a lot of opinions, go to some rv shows, then buy a used one. If you haven't lived in an rv it's really hard to know what floor plan you will like. You may have less choice on floor plans with a used toy hauler but buy one that you think looks liveable to you. Live in it for a year then make your decision on a new one. There are people that purchase new & pretty then hate the floorplan and want to buy something else. The diesel dually IS your best bet for stability, all the manufacturers have higher tow ratings and buy the one that gives you the best deal. We had a 2005 Dodge, purchased a heavier 5th wheel and needed a new truck. We tried to buy a Chevy 3500 but a Ford dealer gave us a better deal. Good luck and keep asking questions, lots of help here and on Escapees.com and rvnet.com. There are also forums for the different manufacturers that allow you to ask questions of actual owners, like www.suitesowners.com (drv), I'm sure Excel has an owners site and Spacecraft. There are lots of toy haulers being manufactured but you'll get an idea of what's best for you, then buy a used one.
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Check out the Full House Drv. Possibly the nicest toyhauler on market, excluding custom built. Likely highest in price also. Igor retail. 15-20% discount. Would require the largest truck you can justify. F450 or hdt conversion. If haven't check you can buy a converted hdt hauler for less than a F450 or 350. Beat the ride of them also.
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Old 02-26-2014, 12:46 PM   #5
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Thanks Chief

Starting out just as weekend trips and rally runs till wife reaches her retirement. Buddy just purchased a Vengeance and I have been looking at Raptor,Carbon, and Torque. Love the new Dodge 3500 and they seem to be the most reasonably priced for new.
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Old 02-26-2014, 01:15 PM   #6
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My wife and I RV shopped for years. Our decision was that a dually pickup and a big toyhauler fit what we wanted to do. She loves the trailer - I love the truck.

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Old 02-26-2014, 04:03 PM   #7
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Check out the Full House Drv...
Do you have a link? They are not listed on DRV's website. Also, I found "No DRV Elite Suites (Toy Hauler) units available" with respect to 2014 models on one dealer's site.
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Old 02-27-2014, 03:27 PM   #8
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Welcome from another retired LEO. Come on over to the Heartland Owners forum

There you will find many other owners of Heartland toyhaulers, Cyclone, Road Warrior and Torque. They will be glad to answer any questions you might have and you might even get a response from the brand manager.
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Thanks Chief Starting out just as weekend trips and rally runs till wife reaches her retirement. Buddy just purchased a Vengeance and I have been looking at Raptor,Carbon, and Torque. Love the new Dodge 3500 and they seem to be the most reasonably priced for new.
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Old 03-09-2014, 10:08 AM   #10
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With so many different possible combinations, it's hard to get it right the first time. Shop around, buy something, but then plan on buying something else within 5 years after you learn just exactly what fits your needs the best.
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I would say the Excel Wild Cargo is worth a look. Excel competes with the top 5er builders in today's market. Excel 5th wheels are supposed to be insulated well with a good track record.

Fyi - axles for 5th wheels come in 6,000lb, 7,000lb. and 8,000lb capacity. Tires also come in different load ranges. I would look for the best axle / tire combination. The best will be 8,000 axles with 17.5 inch 110lb. air capacity 'H' rated tires.
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Check in with the toy hauler folks on our toy hauler forum for more input. Maybe the mod can move you over there.
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Ernie, welcome there is life after LEO I've found it. We've been fulltiming for eight years now and just recently purchased our second 5er and waithing on delivery after much research we ordered a Heartland Cyclone 4000 elite. Your doing the right thing by asking questions keep up your search until you fine the right one for you and your needs.

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My wife and I have a 2013 Ram 3500 Laramie and a 2014 Voltage 3970 toyhauler. We love it. Pm me if you want more info.

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