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Old 07-07-2015, 07:07 AM   #15
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Plunger - tried
Water hose- tried
Chemical was first Liquid Plummer, then a harsher chemical called Liquid Fire found at plumbing supply store. Clerk was giving us lots of warnings about the stuff when he sold it to us.

The saga returns after BIL gets off w**k today!

BIL doesn't rule out the poo mountain but he and SIL are experanced RVers plus he camps at a lot of places without sewer hookups. Says he always puts water back in tank after dumping.
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Sorry for being Capt Obvious but are you sure the black tank is being drained and not a gray tank?
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Old 07-07-2015, 01:28 PM   #17
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Sorry for being Capt Obvious but are you sure the black tank is being drained and not a gray tank?
Yes, when I first got involved I doubled checked everything he was telling me to rule out just those problems. Plus he has cut out a section of the bottom cover on 5er so we could get a better idea of what's going on.

Summary for any new readers or ideas,
Open drain gate waste water flows out. Toilet stays full.
Back flush tank with water, shut gate water stays in till gate opened then it flows out, toilet stays full.
Run first a water hose then a sewer snake down toilet, long snake, water stays in toilet!
Pulled down the road about 50 miles in process the toilet level dropped about a 1/4-1/2 inch.

Plans as of now is to wet vac the toilet and remove so we can snake the pipe without having to hole the handle on toilet. The toilet has a handle on side not the foot pedal.


Thanks to everyone, the saga continues!
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Be a man Tim. Stick your hand down there & see what's clogging it.

One time at my S&B the 3rd floor toilet was completely clogged. Turns out is was a wad of poo that had crazy elastic properties. As soon as I removed the snake it would seal back up again. If I could have run something down it with more surface area than the screw it might have worked. Anyway it required removal of the toilet and a thorough cleaning of the trap.
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Be a man Tim. Stick your hand down there & see what's clogging it.

One time at my S&B the 3rd floor toilet was completely clogged. Turns out is was a wad of poo that had crazy elastic properties. As soon as I removed the snake it would seal back up again. If I could have run something down it with more surface area than the screw it might have worked. Anyway it required removal of the toilet and a thorough cleaning of the trap.
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Can't wait to see how this turns out.
Since I replaced my black tank a couple of years ago my toilet slows down and starts to bubble after a couple of days use. I can fill the pipe right up to the bowl. A plunger blows the blockage into the tank. I think what is going on is that I cut the original drain pipe and then used a Fernco to put it back together. I think TP snags on the cut pipe and eventually blocks it. One of these days I might get a cheap Harbor Freight inspection camera and stick it down the bowl. In the meantime my cheap plunger works great.
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The HF camera is good. I use it to scope my s&b home sewer for roots every fall/winter.
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Old 07-12-2015, 08:04 AM   #22
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Finally clear and running!

BIL moved to a nearby COE park to work on this ongoing saga. He told me he had to get it fixed, he was actually loosing sleep over it! Once more he tryed the sewer snake and was able to get some paper to boil to the top then finally all fluids emptied from the toilet. Taking a bucket he poured 3-4 gallons of water down the toilet thinking he had cleared the clog, and it just set there! Now a very frustrated BIL brings out a 3-4 foot hose that attaches to a water hose. This new device has like a spinner head on the end that sprays water to clean the sides of the tank. I didn't really think this would help, but we had tryed everything else!

We had removed some panels in his bays to get a clearer picture of the pluming, and I was looking that over good when he started running this new hose thingy down the toilet. The little thingy sounded like rocks in a blender as he churned it down through the pipe. Then the shouts rang out, he could feel the clog push away! Toilet empty!

Question now is, what was it? Don't know, at least not till it tries to come out the drain gate and our slinky. When we left we had two happy campers dancing in the street!
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Cool. Thanks for the update!
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Did you completetly read the first post?

"we have ran a 12 ft sewer snake down the toilet that must have curled up in tank but did not allow bowl to drain"

I assume that they went past the clog if 12 foot of snake went down the pipe.
I had once had the type of clog the OP describes and a snake would go thru it but after it was pulled out the clog self-sealed. The down pipe had a slight bend and I used the hooked end of the awning rod to break up the stuff. Took me about 15 minutes as I recall.
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Hope it makes it out the drain pipe. It could be down in the tank growing!
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Hope it makes it out the drain pipe. It could be down in the tank growing!
It sounded like something hard, stone or metal! Coming out of the black tank it'll have to go through the drain gate, a 90', then a 90' in a T where gray tank joins in, then a 90' into the slinky. Looks like a 5th grader must have designed this system!

I'm sorry, I mean no disrespect to any 5th graders!
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I have heard of the piece they cut out for the drain fitting falling into the tank and just left there by the manufacturer. It could have covered the drain hole to the slinky and got welded there by the poo pyramid. If so you'll have a hell of a time getting it through the system. My friend had to remove his tank.
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"Not sure what eats the pads or diapers that use that technology"

The absorbent material is a highly-swellable polymer--it can be deactivated by the addition of chlorine (bleach). Would not know how to get rid of the diaper itself.

Just flushing alkaline cleaners thru the system should not have hurt anything, but never a good idea to put it in a septic system. However, the size of the system for a park will probably be enough to dilute it to the point it was handled ok.

Glad it is solved for the time being...
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