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Old 10-03-2014, 07:42 AM   #1
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Brake Performance

I have seen in several other forums where a lot of the new trailers manufactured lately have grease in the brakes. This is an industry wide problem as I have seen a lot of complaints on various brands. If you purchase a new trailer and the brakes seem weak or little power, then take it to your dealer and demand they pull the drums. Seems AL-CO and others have this problem.
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Many electric trailer; drum ; brakes still have manual adjustments, for the shoes , that should be checked & adjusted at the dealer PDI, ( pre-delivery inspection ) and aren't. Causing poor braking.
Grease on the brake linings , will cause grab or lock up that cannot be adjusted out.
Either condition, would be a reason to return a new trailer to the dealer.
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Would not a few uses quickly burn off any grease? I don't see it being such a problem, lol! I should go grease the brakes on my truck and try it out, haha. Quick easy fix on rotors but drums more work involved.
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Would not a few uses quickly burn off any grease? I don't see it being such a problem, lol! I should go grease the brakes on my truck and try it out, haha. Quick easy fix on rotors but drums more work involved.
Greasing your brakes? Grease is designed to lower friction therefore your brakes would have very little stopping power. And no, a few uses do not "burn" the grease off. Since most grease is a oil based lubricant, once heated to the point to "burn" it off, you would have a fire within the drum which would likely spread. I don't see this issue being funny.
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Greasing your brakes? Grease is designed to lower friction therefore your brakes would have very little stopping power. And no, a few uses do not "burn" the grease off. Since most grease is a oil based lubricant, once heated to the point to "burn" it off, you would have a fire within the drum which would likely spread. I don't see this issue being funny.
Yes I understand this. I use cares upon cases of grease on the farm. I didn't mean burn literally but it should heat and lighten consistency and fling off due to centrifugal force id think. Maybe I'm wrong.

It's not to funny but hardly serious if on trailer, talk to some on here and they will tell you these trailer brakes don't do squat, personally I think they are incorrect but I've also pulled trailers that weigh 5x as much as your camper with no problems at all other than warping the trucks rotors due to over use but you'll hardly be unable to stop and end up a burning ball of fire so I wouldn't lose sleep worrying about grease on your trailer brakes unless maybe you pull a 20k one with a half ton, then you want them working for sure, ha!
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Old 10-07-2014, 08:23 AM   #6
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Grease and brake linings do NOT mix. Grease on linings will degrade your stopping ability. Travel trailers do NOT have air brakes nor usually even hydraulic brakes. Only a few premium brands have disc brakes (which are hydraulic). They mostly have electric brakes which are activated by magnets and centrifugal action and are for all intent, sufficient to lock up wheels but are only marginally capable of being modulated for a hard stop. Grease on any friction surface will harm that ability. I hate to knock anyone's comments, but SultanGris is dead wrong about travel trailer brakes and grease contamination with his comparisons to a 53'+/- commercial box trailer braking.

This set of linings were supplied with a new axle from Dexter. Dexter was called, and the customer service rep seemed upset that this had happened - and I had a completely new set the next day via Fedex.

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If I was buying a new TT. I would make the the dealer pull the hubs so I could see if there was any grease on the shoes before I signed on the bottom line.
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Where am I wrong? You think they don't work much anyway? Then why worry about a little grease if they do nothing anyway? Maybe you misread me but I said those people were incorrect. I do believe they help greatly, though not with grease on them.

I could very well be wrong about them cleaning themselves off over time, I was more thinking rotors but with a drum there really isn't anywhere for the centrifugal force to fling it perhaps, my bad. I'm sorry.
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The grease soaks into the lining and ruins them.
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Over the course of 40 years working on and teaching mechanics I have encountered rear linings that have been soaked with differential fluid because of a bad rear axle seal. In almost every case the brakes did not work very well and when extra pressure was applied the brakes would actually lock-up. This has happened numerous times to be just a coincidence.

I was always confused as to why they would not just slip but instead actually locked up. Just last week I changed the rear brakes on my 1997 F-150 because of brake lock-up due to a leaking seal. The lining thickness was fine but only the left wheel locked up which is where the bad seal was.

The real problem with TT brakes and grease is the use of a grease gun to apply grease to the bearings through a zerk fitting on the outside of the hub. If one really knows what you are doing it works most of the time. Many don't know what they are doing. If you tell some guys to put 2 squirts of grease in every year we all know if 2 is good then 6,8 or 10 is better. WRONG !!! Hence the problem with TT brakes. Vehicles that are packed the standard way never have this problem with grease getting on the linings.

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