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Old 08-17-2016, 11:08 AM   #1
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can I pull

I have 2014 king ranch f-150 eco bust 6 with towing package I want to get a 5th. Wheel travel trailer dry weight of 8300.00 any comments on pulling this
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We need more info. Please include the following: cab style, 4x4 or 4x2, rear axle, payload capacity, GVCW, and the loaded wet weight of the trailer to start.

Initial thoughts without any of that info is, no you can't. Pin weight for that trailer empty will be around 1700. I'm guessing your payload is less than that or maybe slightly more if you are lucky. Either way, by the time you load up the trailer, and the truck with people/gear/etc, you'll be over on your cargo capacity. On the towing side,m looking at the chart the most you could tow is 9600 unless you have the max tow package which would bump you up to 11200 or less if you dont have the 3.73 axle.

You need to find something lighter/smaller or get a bigger truck.
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DO not use the dry weight to make your decision. Look at the trailers GVWR. Your pin weight will probably be 18 to 22% of the trailer GVWR.

I would expect your pin weight to be around 2000# which will over load you truck.

With the 1/2 ton truck you will do better looking at bumper pull travel trailers.

Smokeywren will be along with a more detailed discussion.

But you will need to tell us exactly how the truck is configured...axle ratio, tow max package, cab, etc.

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The only '14 1/2 ton Ford that will handle that much pin weight would be the F150HD package with the 8200 GVWR with the 4800 RAWR.....E tires and wheels.
If your truck has a 3800-4050 RAWR then it simply doesn't have enough axle/tire and suspension to carry even a 1600 dry pin from the 8300 dry trailer.

A 8300 lb dry trailer may weigh closer to 9500 + lbs after loading. Now your looking at approx 2000 lb pin weight which is gonna' be close to max weight even on the higher rated 8200 gvwr.....4800 rawr truck.

Need more info on your truck.
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:43 AM   #5
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My truck info

4x4 super crew,3.5 v6. 3.73 electronic lock rr axle. 7700 GVWR package,max trailer tow. how much weight can my truck pull and how much weight on pin
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Old 08-18-2016, 08:48 AM   #6
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4x4 super crew,3.5 v6. 3.73 electronic lock rr axle. 7700 GVWR package,max trailer tow. how much weight can my truck pull and how much weight on pin
Can't you find this info on a Ford towing website? There are several sites with charts to answer all these questions. Google is your friend here! You may need to read the yellow door sticker on your truck and do a bit of math to get your answers. However, by doing a little research and math you'll have a positive answer which is based on fact, not forum member opinions.
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Your answer should be on this site.
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...TTgde_Sep9.pdf

I don't see any listed with a 7,700 GVWR.
The HD payload pkg (option code 627) would increase the GVWR to 8200#.
It looks to me like your maximum loaded trailer weight is either 7,300#, 9,500# or 9,600# ????
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4x4 super crew,3.5 v6. 3.73 electronic lock rr axle. 7700 GVWR package,max trailer tow. how much weight can my truck pull and how much weight on pin

You'll need to load up your family and any tools and gear (and pets ?)fill the truck with fuel and run the truck over the scales get the two axle weights and compare those numbers to what your door sticker ratings are.
Then with the actual weight compared to the ratings and subtracting 5th wheel hitch weight (200 lbs for hitch and brackets ) off the rear, the amount left will be your absolute maximum pin weight.
Then as others have said figure that 20% of the loaded 5ers weight is on the pin.
We can't tell you what you can pull you have to get the numbers and figure it out .
JMHO: Your going to find that you will overload the rear axle of your truck before you get anywhere near the factory max trailer weight numbers .
1/2 ton towable is a trailer industry LIE to sell trailers to people who won't bother to crunch their actual numbers.
BTW. I towed my first 3 , 5ers with a Dodge Dakota and never overloaded the axles, but none of the trailers weighed over 6,000 loaded.
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Half ton truck to pull that load is asking for problems. Get a larger truck with a diesel. The new 2017 Super Duty would be perfect. This is an awesome new truck that will be out hopefully by the end of Sept.
You may need to purchase the truck first then the new faith wheel after you save more money. If you do buy the new unit you WILL get a larger one later.
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4x4 super crew,3.5 v6. 3.73 electronic lock rr axle. 7700 GVWR package,max trailer tow. how much weight can my truck pull and how much weight on pin
Fleet Ford specs show a F150 super crew 4x4 3.5 engine has the smaller 4050 rawr/P tires.
These trucks may have a est 2500 lb rear axle weight which leaves approx 1550 lb payload.
For this F150 package I would look at dry pins weights in the 850-1000 lb range. This leaves around 500 lbs for a 200 lb hitch/100 lbs of gear and occupants.

The truck will pull its tow rating but doesn't have the rear axle/tire/suspension capacity for a 5th wheel trailer pin weight that size.
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jonnypip, Don't believe your truck is big enough to tow a 5th wheel that big. We specially ordered ours (13' XLT HD Eco) so we could eventually tow a small 5er. DW loved the 28sgs & the dealer tried their darn-est to sell it to us but I knew it was a little to big for our truck. We did order a 14' 26sab and have pulled it for little over 2 years now and it's a perfect match for our truck. We're well under all weight limits.
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