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Old 07-13-2014, 08:16 PM   #15
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My 5er came with a 300/3000 hitch installed from the factory. Don't think 300 will put me over my pin weight, we are planning on double towing a boat next summer as we are allowed in MI. See lot of people doing it in this state as long as you don't go over 65ft total length and you are required a doubles license, which Is just a test. And their are no restrictions on any roads or time of day
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:25 PM   #16
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My prior DRV came with a rear hitch. It also came across scales at 17,000#s. It had a Trailaire pin rated at 18,000. Didn't leave much. Also that was a good load for my 05 dually. I never used it.
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:36 PM   #17
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We pull a trailer with our RZR side by side on it behind our 35 ft. trailer. It works well, and we don't have to use two outfits to go places. We have been in ID, UT, AZ and NV with no problem. Pulling it with a 2500 Dodge diesel.
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Old 07-21-2014, 10:28 AM   #18
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Adding any kind weight to the rear of your trailer accually lessens/lowers your downward weight on your pin. Just saying. You just have to make sure your total "towing" capacity of your fifth wheel hitch and pin box and truck are not exceeded among other things. I double tow behind my Excel with the factory installed 400/4000 hitch and 25k Curt 5TH wheel hitch and a 1ton Dodge CTD in mostly western states with no problems from LEO, port of entries and no special license
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After 4 years of doing it successfully I totaled my jeep. Don't know what kept us upright. Jeep got squirrely and slammed both sides at the rear of the fiver and the fiver got one side of the truck cab. Jeep finally broke loose and tumbled by. Haven't done it since.
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TTS, just curious where you flat towing the jeep wheels down down behind your Excel? If so I suspect the lack of tounge weight on the excel hitch may have caused some violent proposing. Sorry to hear about ur jeep and glad nobody was hurt.
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Some one did a state by state research on towing RV doubles. He found 34 states allow some types of doubles. Many west coast and east coast states didn't allow such.

Towing doubles in OK/AR/KS/TX/MO/CO is very common and even triples (three trailers) at times.

I towed RV doubles for eight years with a 26' 5th wheel trailer and a 18' 3400 lb bass boat all over the states I mentioned above. Always had custom made receiver type hitches welded to the trailers main frame rails and cross members. The boat trailer had 320 lbs and made zero change to the 5th wheel pin weight. Were not talking teeter totter here as a multi axle trailer has no single pivot point such as a single axle trailer.
No issues with doing so.

Towing a Element 4 down or on a tow dolly adds little to non vertical hitch weight to anything. IMO much safer than another conventional trailer.
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Seen one of these last fall ,check it out
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This map shows what states allow doubles and those that don't.

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TTS, just curious where you flat towing the jeep wheels down down behind your Excel? If so I suspect the lack of tounge weight on the excel hitch may have caused some violent proposing. Sorry to hear about ur jeep and glad nobody was hurt.
This incident was probably 10 yrs ago. I was towing down; northbound on IH45 out of Houston at about 57 mph. What I think happened is on one stretch the big rigs had rutted the interstate in the hot weather and my jeep wouldn't track properly, then on a curve I bit it. I had done this for several years prior without and problems.
Truckers told me I should have sped up when it got squirrely instead of trying to stop.
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They will stop you and ticket you in Florida. Like many traffic laws some officers have more tolerance than others
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Michigan requires
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http://www.michigan.gov/documents/re...le_21025_7.pdf
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They will stop you and ticket you in Florida. Like many traffic laws some officers have more tolerance than others
How much is the fine?
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