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09-20-2018, 10:24 AM
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Cargo Carrying Capacity
Hi all[emoji3],
My wife and I are in the hunt for a full time living fifth wheel? We are noticing the models we like have a CCC of about 1800to2500 lbs of max cargo weight. I would like to know if any of you have actually weighed your 5ers after you loaded them? How much cargo do you typically carry? We don't want to pick an RV that can't carry enough! Thanks for any thoughts on this. Jason
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09-20-2018, 01:10 PM
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We run over 3000lbs of cargo, fuel, and water when fully loaded. Full time for 2.5yrs.
Heavy battery pack (250lbs), solar(no idea..), generator (100lbs), tools, etc it all adds up.
Trailer is 13000lbs unloaded, and has a 3200lb CCC on the tag.
We scale it typically ~16200lbs(GVWR) and I've seen it at 16,500lbs with fuller waste tanks. I do tend to carry my fresh water tank full at all times and its ~100gallons - so that could be reduced by 800lbs if I desired.
Understand we have a well built trailer with a lot of CCC and beefy frame, so I don't worry too much about the weight. if we had a smaller CCC i could be convinced to lose a few items and lighten up...and obviously again easily lose 800lbs of water.
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09-20-2018, 10:09 PM
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I wouldn't go under 3k for full timing.
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09-20-2018, 10:26 PM
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Yeah, have weighed the trailer after leaving dealer. loaded and annually.
Sometimes it isn't pretty.
Yeah, we come in at a tad> over 3>K most of the time.
We generally only carry a few gal. of water, generator, no solar. Pedestal to pedestal typically.
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09-21-2018, 05:02 AM
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But the salesman said nobody ever carries that much stuff or travels with water in the tanks .....
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09-21-2018, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by spdracr39
But the salesman said nobody ever carries that much stuff or travels with water in the tanks .....
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I don't. All of my tanks are empty when we travel +/- 5 gallons of residue water in them and I never travel with water in the fresh water tank. The fresh water drain valve is open when we travel. I have about 2700 pounds of additional cargo capacity that I could use if I wanted to. My trailer has a 4733 total CCC which I only use about 2000 lbs. of it. I have gone across a CAT scale several times to insure my weights are correct.
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09-21-2018, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jimcumminsw
I don't. All of my tanks are empty when we travel +/- 5 gallons of residue water in them and I never travel with water in the fresh water tank. The fresh water drain valve is open when we travel. I have about 2700 pounds of additional cargo capacity that I could use if I wanted to. My trailer has a 4733 total CCC which I only use about 2000 lbs. of it. I have gone across a CAT scale several times to insure my weights are correct.
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Are you full time? Never heard of a fulltimer traveling with empty tanks. How would you unless you just went from park to park with no stops/potty breaks in between?
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09-21-2018, 08:31 AM
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I have 4115 CCC according to the sticker its prob around 4000. I carry 80 gallons of fresh water. All the time. As for stuff I'd say I'm no where close to 4000. Maybe 1000lbs of stuff max. I keep the 5ver on a diet.
My dry weight is 19,900 empty. And 24k gross weight. I stay on lighter side of things.
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09-21-2018, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mrgrayaz
Are you full time? Never heard of a fulltimer traveling with empty tanks. How would you unless you just went from park to park with no stops/potty breaks in between?
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No! But we do travel 1 to 2 months at a time. We do stop every two hours at a rest area on the interstates. We will walk around and use the restrooms at the rest area as needed. Also most of the campgrounds we travel to are between 300 to350 miles max so, we don't need fluids in the tanks. We also just use full hook ups at the campground the DW requires this requirement for traveling.
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09-21-2018, 02:37 PM
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We are full timers for the past ~15 months. We pretty much run at MAX cargo capacity on both truck and trailer, we'd bring more if we could, but we don't want to be outside of the engineered specifications and we weigh ourselves regularly.
To talk about tanks, we pretty much always travel with partially full tanks.
For the fresh, we bring no less than 1/3rd a tank in the event we may want to stop someplace on our travels (for cooking, drinking, flushing, etc.)
OR if we're going to be boondocking (which has become more and more frequent) we travel with full fresh and that's 110+ gallons in our toy hauler model. (plus the 70g on the reserve tank in the truck.)
We also leave fluids in the gray and black tanks to help 'slosh' the schmoo off of the sensors. We never let them go dry, or else you'll be spending time trying to rectify misreading sensors.
To help figure out what you'll need, first determine how much carrying capacity does your truck and trailer have, then you'll quickly determine that it'll never be enough. You'll want to be upgrading axles, hitches, pin boxes, etc. and finding lighter more efficient ways of doing things. (no uni-taskers)
We have a rule here there if you bring something onboard, something else has to go.
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09-23-2018, 10:28 AM
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I'm just a weekend warrior in a 35' 5th and have between 1500-2000# depending on water load. I can't imagine full timing with under 2500# of stuff plus water.
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09-23-2018, 10:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrgrayaz
Are you full time? Never heard of a fulltimer traveling with empty tanks. How would you unless you just went from park to park with no stops/potty breaks in between?
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I've never traveled with fresh water tank empty. To many things could go wrong, and your stuck with no water.
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09-24-2018, 09:44 PM
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First there is no reason to carry 800 lbs of water if you are not boondocking. We found that we took alot of stuff to the rig the figured out there was no reason for it.
Are you full timing? How many shirts towels extra linens three weeks of canned foods ect ect do you really need. In the short time we have been doing this going food shopping is a twice or three times a week gig.
If i have learned anything ...water is a must for flushing but dont carry it if you dont have to. Down sizing is damn hard but so freeing. Truely if you havent used it needed it or thought of it. Do not take it to your rig.
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09-25-2018, 06:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spdracr39
But the salesman said nobody ever carries that much stuff or travels with water in the tanks .....
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I travel I-80 a lot. Yesterday, in 200 miles I would say at the least 75% of fifth wheels were pulled by single rear wheels. That same salesman probably said you are good to go. Most people are right at the limit so you be the judge. If it feels like you want more of a cushion get the rig with the 3-4000 pound capacity but do some reading before you jump in.
Good luck with the search!
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