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Old 09-22-2013, 07:36 PM   #1
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Cedar Creek 38 FLASH

We are looking at a Cedar Creek
38 FL camper. The exterior length is 40 feet 8 in. The hitch weight is 2550 lbs. The axle dry weight is 10,939 lbs. The GVWR is 13,430 lbs. My question is what size truck do I need to pull this with ? Another question is what size and type of hitch would you recondmend . Thanks for your time. Gary
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A 40' Rv with a GVWR of only 13430#? Sure sounds light to me. Are you sure about the weights.

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Dry Hitch Weight 2,550 lbs. (1,157 kg)
Unloaded Vehicle Weight 13,430 lbs. (6,092 kg)
GVWR 16,550 lbs. (7,507 kg)

One ton dually, as most will say, is minimum.
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Old 09-23-2013, 06:16 AM   #4
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My 2014 Cedar Creek 34 RLSA showed 11,569# shipping weight in the specifications. Actual with optional Trail Air air ride hitch and dual pane windows came in at 12,175#, which is 606# over the Cedar Creek listed weight.
The 38 FL, you would need a 1 ton truck. The front living units usually have a heavier pin weight than others.
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Old 09-23-2013, 03:35 PM   #5
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Yes Ken the numbers are correct. Straight from the book. What size and type of hitch should we be lookin for ? Also what kind of brake controler is best .
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These numbers seam correct
Dry Hitch Weight 2,550 lbs Dry Ship Weight 13,430 lbs GVWR 16,550 lbs Cargo Carrying Capacity 3,120 lbs Exterior Length 40' 8" Exterior Height 12' 11" Exterior Width 96" Fresh Water Capacity 66 Gal Gray Water Capacity 80 Gal Black Water Capacity 40 Gal Awning Size 18 feet
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I agree that you need a one-ton dually to safely and comfortably tow this trailer. IMO, you should buy the best hitch you can afford and get one that matches the towing capacity of the truck. It's almost certain that this won't be your last RV, and the next one probably won't be smaller!

My Ram 3500 DRW with Max Tow option is rated at 20,500 pounds so I got a Pullrite Super 5th hitch that was rated at 20,000 pounds.
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These numbers seam correct
Dry Hitch Weight 2,550 lbs Dry Ship Weight 13,430 lbs GVWR 16,550 lbs Cargo Carrying Capacity 3,120 lbs Exterior Length 40' 8" Exterior Height 12' 11" Exterior Width 96" Fresh Water Capacity 66 Gal Gray Water Capacity 80 Gal Black Water Capacity 40 Gal Awning Size 18 feet
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OK, the GVWR is actually 16550#, not 134xx#. Your real world pin weight will be closer to 3300#. So I would say a recent 1 ton dually diesel will be needed.

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My 34 RSKS has a ' brochure ' pin weight of 2800 # HAHA,know what it really is?
According to a CAT scale 4000# and a bit.
Do not for a minute believe the literature ,no trailer ever has weighed anywhere near what sales literature claims ever.
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When looking at such a large unit, why settle for a 10 cu ft fridge? With that much length, it should have a 12-13 cu ft fridge. If you make long trips/extended stays, the small fridge is going to cut into cold food storage.
We made an Alaskan trip last year with a couple with a 10 ft fridge--their trip food purchases were much higher/more often than ours due to storage ability. But if you eat out often, fridge capacity won't be a problem.
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No wingnut this one has a regular home fridge in it. I told the wife that we are not getting a camper refrigerator this time.
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Crawl under the trailer and read the trailer axle weight capacity. If it is under 7000 pounds don't buy it.
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It has 7000 lb axles under it. I wonder if it should have 2-8000lb or perhaps 3 - 7000 lb.
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No, 2x 7k axles is 14k lbs. Remember, you'll never have on the axles only. The landing legs or pin box hold tongue weight.
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