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Old 06-05-2015, 05:45 AM   #15
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Rust causing the pads to separate, just don't make sense.
It would do the same thing with shoes. Drum brakes are not sealed.
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Old 06-05-2015, 06:41 AM   #16
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I agree, i am from NE Ohio and they not only use salt, but the brine solution on the roads, and I have seen little to no problem with rust between the pads and backing plates. When you put the pads in the calipers, you have to use synthetic brake grease on the slides to keep them moving freely, this is on the silverados, because they seize up, but once this is done, little to no more problems. I would try a different band of brake pads if you are continuing to have this problem, it is unusual.
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Hub/Rotor Finish

There are 4 basic finishes on your disc brake Hub/Rotor & Caliper.

Because RV's tend to sit idle for longer periods of time, and E-coat is minimum protection, Dacromet is preferred.

The standard automotive finish offers the least
protection (i.e. during a standard salt spray test,
rust will begin forming in less than 10 hours).

E-coating offers the best value of protection for
over the road use and for fresh water marine
(or limited salt water) applications (i.e. during
a standard salt water spray test, rust will begin
forming between 250 and 350 hours).

Dacromet coating offers the best value of
protection for salt water applications (i.e.
during a standard salt spray test, rust will
begin forming between 300 and 400 hours).

All stainless steel offers the ultimate corrosion
protection in salt water marine applications (zero
adverse effects due to salt water corrosion).
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Old 09-10-2015, 10:12 PM   #18
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I really can't believe anyone thinks that drum brakes are superior to discs. Having dealt with everything from race cars to forklifts for more than 20 years I have never encountered a situation where drum brakes were the answer.
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I really can't believe anyone thinks that drum brakes are superior to discs. Having dealt with everything from race cars to forklifts for more than 20 years I have never encountered a situation where drum brakes were the answer.
Some folks resist change. Disk brakes have been tested and proved to be better in all conditions and give shorter and repeated stopping power, not prone to fade when hot. They require little attention except changing pads as they wear out. Even that job is streamlined, remove the wheel and a couple of bolts and the caliper is off and the pads out. Sure beats removing the drum, removing and installing the springs then having to poke through the hole on the backing plate or drum to turn the star wheel to adjust them.
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I really can't believe anyone thinks that drum brakes are superior to discs. Having dealt with everything from race cars to forklifts for more than 20 years I have never encountered a situation where drum brakes were the answer.
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I tow 18.000#, drums would be a deal breaker for me.
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Mine are electric drum but x 6. We have 3 axles. Also 8k hub and brakes. They stop well. All it takes to knock out electric brakes is a twig though. Had just that to happen. Steel lines with brake fluid is not so fragile. If all mine were worn out I would change but not until.
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We had drums on our '06 Titanium and they were 'crap' even after the axle change out and with all new parts. Spring ahead, to the current '14 5er --- and they are still crap as the driver in the car ahead of me today in St. Louis would probably attest to as I slid up along side of him in a panic stop when he 'decided' he would be a nice guy and let a dump truck out of a side ramp on I-64. I may be looking at a mod next spring if the stars line up for my finances.

Anyone who believes that drum brakes are still the best way should do some in depth research. There are 4 wheel discs on the TV, the wife's car as well as the AVATAR vehicle and we couldn't be happier with the stopping power. As far as rust belt - Upstate NY is as bad as any where in North America with both rock salt and liquid chemicals used from first hint of ice until the remnants wash out in May - and I have little problem other then the occasional slide pin getting rusty if I neglect maintenance.
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90% of air brake vehicles being sold are STILL drum. That being said. I would prefer to have juice disk brakes on my trailer. But there is nothing wrong with the drums on there now. And my TV has more than enough stopping power even without the trailers brakes. So it may be a long time before I look to switch
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In 24 years of trailering I might have spend $300 on brake repairs. Why do I need any better. My controler is set at 60% and does fine for me. Any more it just to aggressive and will drag on an emergency stop. I do not want flatten tires on my unit.
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We have all wheel disk brakes on our MH and they are FAR better than the drums on our previous MH.
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In 24 years of trailering I might have spend $300 on brake repairs. Why do I need any better. My controler is set at 60% and does fine for me. Any more it just to aggressive and will drag on an emergency stop. I do not want flatten tires on my unit.

Discs will seldom if ever lock up. They come on much faster just like your sig Ford TV as they don't need the magnets and drum rotation to energize the brake shoes - and is a partial function of brake shoe adjustment.

How many e-stops do you make? I've been trailering with mostly 5th wheels and a couple of TTs between since 1976 and probably have over a 100K miles doing so and just made my first full on panic/e-stop this past Thursday. And nary a flat spot on the tires.
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I am currently looking for a installer to put a set of Titans on our Landmark,being we live in Bakersfield,Ca...
Hey Dodgeman,

Did you end up going with the Titan conversion? Got any feedback?

If so, did you find a good shop in So. CA? We're considering the same set-up, and I'm looking for a referral.

If anyone has other suggestions, or recommendations for a reputable shop in So. CA or AZ to do the hydraulic over electric fifth wheel disc brake conversion...I'm all ears.

I'd do this myself, but would like to get er done ASAP before heading down to Big Bend, and won't be somewhere suitable to work on it before then.

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Hey Dodgeman,

Did you end up going with the Titan conversion? Got any feedback?

If so, did you find a good shop in So. CA? We're considering the same set-up, and I'm looking for a referral.

If anyone has other suggestions, or recommendations for a reputable shop in So. CA or AZ to do the hydraulic over electric fifth wheel disc brake conversion...I'm all ears.

I'd do this myself, but would like to get er done ASAP before heading down to Big Bend, and won't be somewhere suitable to work on it before then.

Thanks!
Hi,I did a switch over but I went drum brakes with dual pistons,it was a improvement,but if I have to do it over again I would definitely go Disc,since I did the switch over we have traded up to a 2012 Mobile Suites which has disc brakes,like everybody says the disc are superior,won't have a another rig without Disc brakes. Terry
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