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06-07-2011, 10:52 PM
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Junior Member
Forest River Owners Club
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Door locks
We just got our 5er out of storage and found that some kind person had removed both flat screen tv's some time over the winter. There was no sign of forcible entry and to remove the 32" tv they had to open the slide, so they must have had a vehicle with a connection to power up the inverter as the batteries had been removed for the winter. Also they were very careful to leave all cables intact and only took the remotes for the tv's leaving the the remote for the stereo, I just wish they had left the other half of the wall mounts as I will have buy new ones now. My question is what kind of door lock can I install that will give better security?? My trailer is a 2011 Flagstaff 5er with two doors and two locks on each door(using different keys for each door). I would like to replace all locks with something that the dealers don't have master keys to and have all locks keyed the same.
Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.
After getting things dewinterized and new tv's we went out last week for a few days west of the city to get away for a break, A little cool in the evenings and some rain but had a good time with family.
One other annoyance is the water pump keeps cycling every few seconds. Can't find any leaks. Ideas??
Thanks
Ray
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06-08-2011, 07:40 AM
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The internal check valve in the water pump may have failed, which allows water to trickle back into the fresh tank as soon as the pump shuts off.
See a locksmith to change the locks to something unique and keyed alike.
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06-08-2011, 07:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by seatosea
We just got our 5er out of storage and found that some kind person had removed both flat screen tv's some time over the winter. There was no sign of forcible entry and to remove the 32" tv they had to open the slide, so they must have had a vehicle with a connection to power up the inverter as the batteries had been removed for the winter. Also they were very careful to leave all cables intact and only took the remotes for the tv's leaving the the remote for the stereo, I just wish they had left the other half of the wall mounts as I will have buy new ones now. My question is what kind of door lock can I install that will give better security?? My trailer is a 2011 Flagstaff 5er with two doors and two locks on each door(using different keys for each door). I would like to replace all locks with something that the dealers don't have master keys to and have all locks keyed the same.
Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.
After getting things dewinterized and new tv's we went out last week for a few days west of the city to get away for a break, A little cool in the evenings and some rain but had a good time with family.
One other annoyance is the water pump keeps cycling every few seconds. Can't find any leaks. Ideas??
Thanks
Ray
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Nice. Neat and tidy thieves. Their mothers should be proud. I think I'd find another storage lot next year.
Re the water pump. Have u checked that an outside shower faucet isn't cracked open slightly?
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06-08-2011, 12:32 PM
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Monaco Owners Club
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On the pump, if you have a valve to fill the onboard water tank fromthe fresh water inlet, and it's in the fill position without city water hooked up, your pump will cycle like that. Ask me how I know....
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06-08-2011, 03:49 PM
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The problem with trailers is that it is very easy to jam the door open which usually causes a lot of damage. I know that this probably does not make you feel any better but it could have been worse. Missing TV and a damaged door.
Don
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06-08-2011, 04:20 PM
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As the other post said, you probably have a leaking pump. It bleeds off the pressure and causes the pump to turn back on. Carefully check all faucets inside and out. check the washing machine. Check the hose inlet. If there are no leaks, it is the pump. did you lock the deadbolt lock? The master keys only fit the handle lock. There should not be a master to the deadbolt.
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06-08-2011, 04:45 PM
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Just a thought but if you had locks that they could not have gotten past easily then you might have to repair/replace the door and frame when they had used a large screw driver to force it open. My old 5th wheel door lock broke and that is how I got in.
Paul
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06-09-2011, 07:26 AM
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Hi, Sorry for your lose.
How did the thief's know that the TV's were in the 5er?
When we store our unit all window shades are down and the TV is removed from the camper. I do not know if the TV will fail do to extreme cold temperatures, but why chance it.
I have replaced my locks on the basement storage doors with the tumbler type lock. See Mod MY RV, RV Door and Storage Locks | ModMyRV . If you did not change them everyone has the same key for the storage locks, CH751.
The main egress and ingress door has two locks on it. One is a dead bolt that is keyed differently for all RV's and the bottom lock handle can be opened by anyone with a master key.
You can change your entry door lock to this style if you want to. http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-locks/keypad-door-entry-lock.htm
good luck.
Jim W.
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06-09-2011, 07:42 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
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Install a Dead Bolt! Those Factory Locks are too easily picked even with new tumblers installed! The truth is that the Doors can easily be pried open by a determined thief anyway.
Your Pump problem may be as simple as a split O Ring in one of the faucets or Valves.
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06-09-2011, 08:21 AM
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Winnebago Owners Club
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I believe a lock is there to keep an honest man honest, a thief will find a way in anyway! Storage with visability may be the best but I guess that is why we have a need for insurance. Sounds to me that you are moving on and enjoying the camper.
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06-13-2011, 09:44 PM
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Forest River Owners Club
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Thanks -re- door locks
Thanks to all for your suggestions. We purchased new TV's(32" on sale at Visions for less than $300 and wall mounts at Princess Auto for under $50) and are having the door locks re-keyed. They can only re-key the deadbolt as the other is riveted into the handle. Replaced the storage door locks with barrel locks. Took the front of the water pump off and checked it then put it back on, now it seems to be working fine, possibly a stuck diaphragm or a piece of dirt. Now that we have our problems solved we will be leaving next week for Victoria, BC for two or three weeks and enjoy some summer weather.
Ray
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06-14-2011, 12:44 AM
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Don't spend too much time and effort on door locks. All they have to do is break the door window and they're in. I guess a deadbolt keyed both sides would help, but I've never seen that in an RV. Regarding the post asking "How did they know there were TV's in there?", that's pretty obvious, there's always TV's in RVs!
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06-15-2011, 09:14 PM
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I'm still wondering where they got 12V power to open the slide, stole a battery from another trailer?
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06-16-2011, 12:01 AM
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Forest River Owners Club
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They probably had a truck with a connector to hook up with the power cord from the 5er. Anyway we have changed locks and got new tv's that won't be left in the trailer when it is left for extended periods of time. I am considering putting a sign up like a dealer in Elkhart had, saying 'No TV's in the trailer'. We are off tomorrow for Vancouver and Victoria for 3 weeks.
Ray
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