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Old 03-11-2015, 09:12 AM   #1
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Electric Fifth Wheel???

Told the DW we should look into getting an rv. She started looking found a floorplan and options she liked and came back with a class a all electric coach. It's way too much money for our first but she is adamant about staying away from propane, wants nothing to do with it at all. Are there any fifth wheels where the heat/ac, water and cooktop are electric?

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I've never seen one.
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They all could be electric only, let the propane tank out and turn the ref and hot water heater to electric only. Buy an induction cook top and elect heater for winter.
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Old 03-11-2015, 10:34 AM   #4
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Water heater, fridge, AC, cooktop, heat pump is absolutely doable (pretty much standard). But if you camp in climates where the temps drop below freezing you will need central heat to prevent damage to the water and waste water systems.
I believe high end manufacturers like Forks RV would build you one but you'd be in $200,000 territory before you know it.

Edit: Check this link, they might just have what you need http://www.rvcomfortsystems.com/
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If you're never going to dry camp, or boondocks which ever is the more correct term, and never need a generator then moving to all electric is totally doable. The problem is that's hard to do in most 5ers since they normally have propane generators.

I've been in the same boat in that I don't like propane running around the RV. My wife likes 5ers better than MH so that's what we're looking at. I've been trying to figure out how to go all electric and dump the propane but I keep coming back to the generator problem. Simply put no one has a diesel generator that will fit most 5ers without major modifications. They are just much larger than the propane ones.

The other problem is that most 5ers don't have a large enough generator to handle a totally electric coach once you add in the induction cooktop and the like. A 5,500 watt gen is gong to be tight for all electric although I think 6,500 watt would work OK and 8,000 watts would be even better. Problem is that going to 8,000 move you back in to the diesel range.

We've spotted a 5er that we really like and it has a 6,500 watt gen so it should be fine running all electric for the kitchen. There still is the issue of space heating hot water that needs to be addresses. AquaHot makes a propane unit, MODEL 400LP, that I think would be better than the standard heaters. At least with it you're keeping the heating in a sealed unit in one central location.

So I think the bottom like is you can work toward a all electric 5er but getting there is going to take a lot of work.
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I saw a couple of them with electric cooktops, but the heat/ac and water was still propane. She'd rather sleep in a tent and cook over a fire than anything with propane and pilot lights.
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I saw a couple of them with electric cooktops, but the heat/ac and water was still propane. She'd rather sleep in a tent and cook over a fire than anything with propane and pilot lights.
DVR, retrofitting or ordering a unit with electric cooktop (preferably induction) shouldn't be difficult, the AC has nothing to do with propane and as long as the temperatures remain above freezing the heatpump built into many AC's can provide comfortable warmth. Water heaters have the built in option to run on propane or electricity, if you don't want propane just remove the propane cylinders and run everything electric and as I stated in my previous post RV Comfort Systems has an electric conversion kit to take care of this last obstacle.
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Thanks. Going to have to check that all out. Now to convince her...
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The only propane in our 5er is the heat, and the water heater if we don't want electric. The new motor homes can be all electric. I looked at several. The heat is run off diesel fuel, same with the water heater I guess.

The only problem I have with it, is being an innocent by stander that happens to be next to one of these contraptions that is actively using this system. It flat out STINKS! It's like being behind an old diesel truck, and having to smell the fumes. It's rude in my opinion.
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Thanks. Going to have to check that all out. Now to convince her...
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It stinks? How so. The Class A's we went in and tested didn't smell at all?
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If it burns diesel, it will have some odor...I have been next to some MHs that either had diesel water heat or diesel furnace--very loud and irritating. About as bad as running the gen to keep electricity on to heat.
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I say LP is wonderful, and you just need to convince her. It's very safe and economical. Why not have her read positive posts, hoping to convince her? I don't pretend to know the statistics, but propane is a good source of heat for cooking and space comfort. I wouldn't go all electric at any cost.
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It stinks? How so. The Class A's we went in and tested didn't smell at all?
Diesel generators do not meet the same emission standards as the motor and so diesel smell, fumes and noise will be issues when dry camping.
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