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Old 06-25-2013, 07:38 PM   #15
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If Thor puts a lippert frame under it it is NOT Carriage worthy.
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Old 06-26-2013, 03:05 AM   #17
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Lifestyle was re-started by the managers and manufacturing group from Carriage (after Carriage closed), real good group of folks. They make they own frames (non-Lippert)

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I know this is off subject. I find your tow vehicle interesting. May I ask what the white unit is just behind your sleeper. Air deflector, storage possibly?
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Old 06-26-2013, 09:14 AM   #18
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I design and do semi conversions for RV pulling such as this one,

and manufacture specialty RV air hitches to go on the back of semis.

I designed my truck to be able to install and service those hitches "in the field".

These suckers are heavy (650 pounds), hence the hoist I designed and installed, it comes out 5 feet and lifts one ton. The box is primarily used as a shop on wheels for tools and spare parts, but we do store "other stuff" in it when traveling.

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hjs,

That is just plain and simply, cool!

Thank you for pics.

I just have to talk my wife into purchasing a semi and then I can have you install a hitch conversion.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:42 PM   #20
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Infinityrver, tell you wife that if you buy a semi my wife will teach her how to drive it. It's automatic (10 gears).

For your information I bought the Volvo for $27K, (before conversion), I believe most 1 tons cost more than that. It gets 8.3 mpg and never slows down pulling up hill (in overdrive)
If you want to see how I converted it check out this album.
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Thor paid 100 grands for the Carriage name, I'm sure they had a plan to re-introduce it from the day they bought it. They also bought Airstream, so they should know about quality.
I also heard that someone was thinking about re-introducing the Royals International model, is it Thor?

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The current Airstream is not the quality of the Airstream of old. So far I am not impressed with Thor products.

I have looked at the new Lifestyle and then a Heartland and a Redwood. They have lots of glitz, but do not have the solid feel of the Lifestyle.

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The only folks that make out like a bandit being part of a big conglomerate are the original founders or the current owners, they can cash out, go play golf or start another company. Smart conglomerates leave the well run companies they own alone and help the weaker ones, but that's rare, most of the time it's the money game sucking up companies and trying to impress Wall Street, rather than paying attention to the details. Fleetwood is a good example of conglomerate flaming out spectacularly, or Chris Braun, VP from Fleetwood who took over Teton and sunk it in less than a year, apparently what he learned at Fleetwod was useless in term of skill needed to run a "real company. Or Lippert, busy buying up RV companies and manufacturers, but can't build RV frames that don't crack and fall apart.
I missed the Tampa RV show this January, hopefully I'll see some of the Lifestyle units next year.

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Hey Tex, where did u see the lifestyles? Closest dealer to me is Oklahoma . (At least it was there before those tornadoes)
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Anyone consider a KZ Escalade full time quality? They do use a stacked 18" of chassis.
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KZ is no longer producing the Escalade model. There are many people that do use the Escalade as a full time unit. I had the Escalade Toy Hauler and full timed for two years with it. It was a good unit.
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The Lifestyles fivers are impressive! Just to add to the conversation, Excel also builds their own frames in-house, as does New Horizons and Doubletree, of course. So these are more options to look at other than Lippert-frame rvs.
Boy Henry, every time I see that pic of your "workshop" I want to rundown to Fla. and see what else you've done! lol
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The Lifestyles fivers are impressive! Just to add to the conversation, Excel also builds their own frames in-house, as does New Horizons and Doubletree, of course. So these are more options to look at other than Lippert-frame rvs.
Boy Henry, every time I see that pic of your "workshop" I want to rundown to Fla. and see what else you've done! lol
That's a good info, I didn't know there were so many "still" doing their own frames.
There are two or three forums going on the Escapees side about the Lippert frame failures, pretty ugly. Another Lippert frame issue - HDT - Escapees Discussion Forum I looked up the Lippert corporate website just out of curiosity, they are just like a big vacuum sucking up RV parts makers, 200 pages catalog so far of what you "can buy from them". With all the money shuffling and the acquisitions games, there is no time for the top management to see who is doing what.
I'm not in Florida yet, the move is scheduled for mid August. After that the first order of business will be putting 60 feet of RV parking next to the house.

Widen the culvert, loose that small palm tree in the front and run cement pad up to the three palm trees by the pool. Some of my friends are already "reserving" a stay The house is in Port St Lucie and there is also a very nice campground in town (5 miles away). We always welcome visitors, friends, fellow RVers and "curious" for pow-wow, chat, or a visit.
Second order of business will be dealing with the "mobile shop".

I already started the process before I came up north, I'm excited about finishing it (the truck is in Florida), since I came up with more ideas while up here. I'll post the "process" on the HDT thread, but if you want to see it personally, you are welcome.
There is a Lifestyle dealer in Vermont about 20 miles from us, I scheduled a visit to check these units first hand and I will comment on what I see. The dealer was a long time Carriage dealer and it seems the customer and dealer loyalty to the "original" Carriage is working in favor of Lifestyle. Doesn't bode well for Thor and if they put Lippert frames in the "new Carriages" they will never get the old customers, these folks are pretty savvy, but there will always be new "un-aware" ones.
If you schedule your visit "strategically" you might see my Wondersteps.







I designed those for a friend of mine,

and as you can see he installed his on his truck while mine are still sitting in a "kit form".

But "Florida inspiration" might work it's magic, "the kit" will be trucked down from New Hampshire to Florida.

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I need to make a correction- as I thought DRV built their frames. They do not. They design them for Lippert to build them.
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