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Old 07-06-2013, 11:23 AM   #57
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Newer F150's do have higher tow ratings than in the past but the problem of payload still exists. Just cause you tow 11,100lbs doesn't mean you'll have the payload capacity for the pin. And to SultanGris I would go around the mtns if I were you. We used to tow with a 10 5.4 3.73 maxtow and getting up around 6,000' we lost some power. Could recover when slowing down for corners and needing to accelerate back up to speed.
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Old 07-06-2013, 08:58 PM   #58
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Would like to know what you weigh full of gas and another passenger. What is pin weight, most 1/2 tons are limited to 7000. Would not want to be in your shoes going down hill.
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Would like to know what you weigh full of gas and another passenger. What is pin weight, most 1/2 tons are limited to 7000. Would not want to be in your shoes going down hill.
Going downhill is easy, trailers have brakes, it's going uphill that sucks, Haha!
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Trailers have brakes?
HAHA ?
Trailers have marginal brakes,most I wouldn't put on a '72 pinto ,add mountain driving(brakes are already 'toasty') and you have a recipe for brown shorts at best, tragedy possibly.
I always cringe when I hear someone state 'truck stops the truck trailer stops the trailer'.
One thing going for trailer brakes is they dont have brake fluid to boil,I just wish they were big enough to truly stop a trailer not a 2500 # car.
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Trailers have brakes?
HAHA ?
Trailers have marginal brakes,most I wouldn't put on a '72 pinto ,add mountain driving(brakes are already 'toasty') and you have a recipe for brown shorts at best, tragedy possibly.
I always cringe when I hear someone state 'truck stops the truck trailer stops the trailer'.
One thing going for trailer brakes is they dont have brake fluid to boil,I just wish they were big enough to truly stop a trailer not a 2500 # car.
Granted i haven't gone down a mountain but i have used the tbc without assisting with truck brakes to see how good they worked and it stops great, even locking up the tires if you mash it all the way. Maybe you should get yours checked out if they aren't working.
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Old 07-07-2013, 01:57 PM   #62
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Granted i haven't gone down a mountain but i have used the tbc without assisting with truck brakes to see how good they worked and it stops great, even locking up the tires if you mash it all the way.
Do that test comin' down off Chinook Pass here in Washington State and get back to us again...
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Granted i haven't gone down a mountain but i have used the tbc without assisting with truck brakes to see how good they worked and it stops great, even locking up the tires if you mash it all the way. Maybe you should get yours checked out if they aren't working.
Oh they work just fine...........the first time ........cold....., heavy traffic ,long down hill,get them warm like Fran said and you will be surprised. they have NO reserve capacity whatsoever.They dont cool down so quik either.
Coming down a grade to a traffic light is when you will find out,make sure your horn works because you will be using it.
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That's why having a diesel with an EB is so much better than even a gasser 3/4-1 ton. All these guys towing 8000+lbs with 1/2 tons are really just living on the edge IMO. It's the panic situation that will get you.
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Oh they work just fine...........the first time ........cold....., heavy traffic ,long down hill,get them warm like Fran said and you will be surprised. they have NO reserve capacity whatsoever.They dont cool down so quik either.
Coming down a grade to a traffic light is when you will find out,make sure your horn works because you will be using it.
Fair enough, you probably know more about trailer brakes than i do. Good thing the f150 has good brakes and an engine/transmission brake!
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I think what folks are trying to say, Sultangris, is that your half ton is at (possibly beyond, depends on specs) the ragged edge of overtowing with that 10,000 pound gross fiver behind it. Not to mention the little tagalong...

Any time the weight of the trailer exceeds half of the weight of the tug, there are bound to be added concerns about stopping.
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I think what folks are trying to say, Sultangris, is that your half ton is at (possibly beyond, depends on package) the ragged edge of overtowing with that 10,000 pound gross fiver behind it. Not to mention the little tagalong...

Any time the weight of the trailer exceeds half of the weight of the tug, there are bound to be concerns about stopping.
Actually its 7300 empty and i don't carry a ton of stuff with me but i get the concept. I don't intend to head to the mountains. I was just pointing out that trailers have brakes too.
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You might be surprised if you weigh your trailer, even bone-empty. "Dry weight" is often underreported by manufacturers! I think it prudent to plan around gross weights, which is where I got the 10,000 pounds from for your fiver (I think it's actually a little higher than that).

Glad to hear you're keeping it as light as possible, though.
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You might be surprised if you weigh your trailer, even bone-empty. "Dry weight" is often underreported by manufacturers! I think it prudent to plan around gross weights, which is where I got the 10,000 pounds from for your fiver (I think it's actually a little higher than that).

Glad to hear you're keeping it as light as possible, though.
Yea I've heard that before too, actually been meaning to weigh it, just got it a couple months ago and haven't had a chance yet. It pulls great even with the ski behind it. Better than i thought it would actually. Contemplating going south this winter, will be avoiding the mountains. Might have a super duty by then also.
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Did you get the trailer at the same time as the truck?

And if I may ask about my 'nother "obsessive" towing thing: how are the tires? I'm hoping they're not original...six years would be a long time for O.E. tires on a fiver!
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