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Old Bill · 06-28-2019, 07:07 AM

We have the same truck, only a 2017, and tow a 29' Fifthwheel. I've attached a PDF file that shows our actual weights when loaded and ready to go. I use the Anderson Ultimate Fifthweel hitch that attaches to a B&W Turnball hitch installed in the bed of the truck. Anderson can also be had with rails instead.

mobilemike · 06-28-2019, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JIMNLIN

For those that think the F150HDPPO is just a 1/2 ton with more suspension should educate themselves better on all the different F150 packages before opening mouth and inserting one big foot.
Fleet Ford truck specs has all the info to make a more educated statement about the F150HDPP over the std duty F150.

Yeah. I did.

Its a thicker frame buy a few .001ths, Different wheels, tires,shocks, springs front and rear. Limited engine selection and larger coolers and some electronics upgrades.

All unnecessary on a f250 where you get true 8 lug wheels and larger axle and brakes.

Sgt_Dubie · 06-28-2019, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by joanmarie

Thanks for all the input/discussion/advice/comments. Decided we could live with rails in the bed. We are picking up our truck today, 5th wheel Monday, and are camping in about 3 weeks. If the discussion is still alive, i'll let you know what we think about how the F150 handles our PA roads.

In my dodge 1500 EcoDiesel I solved the rail problem by just buying a rubber mat fitted to the bed. It keeps things from getting snagged up when it’s not in use pulling the camper (which is most of the time). Also, I don’t have a slider(6’4 box), but I do have a side winder in the camper. Even with the older style square corners, I can do a 90 degree turn with plenty of room to spare.

JIMNLIN · 06-28-2019, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilemike

Yeah. I did.

Its a thicker frame buy a few .001ths, Different wheels, tires,shocks, springs front and rear. Limited engine selection and larger coolers and some electronics upgrades.

All unnecessary on a f250 where you get true 8 lug wheels and larger axle and brakes.

Your gettin' closer......keep digging for the rest of those differences between the F150HDPP and the std duty F150.

Edd505 · 06-28-2019, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

Agree that a F-250 diesel wins, no doubt but the 6.2 gasser vs the 3.5 Eco-Boost is a different story.

The F-150 with the HDPP option is built so Ford can say 'Best in Class'.

I bet the F-150 with HDPP turns better than my F-250 that needs a football field to turn around

You ought to try my F350 long bed crew, I know that's where the song give me forty acres originated.

Filterman · 06-28-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dropthejacks

Never will understand why folks go out and drop astronomical amounts of money on a Ford F150 with all the bells and whistles to try and bring it up to a 3/4 ton truck level when they could have spent less money and just went ahead and bought a 3/4 ton diesel truck.

I chose. F150 with Maxtow highest GVW I could get with 6.2L gas simply because my wife has mobility issues and I wanted as low a chassis as I could get with max towing capacity. We pull a 8000lb ( dry) TT all over North America with no issues . 50000 miles or pavement and gravel ( north to the Arctic Ocean one year) with no issues so it’s ok.

gk42 · 06-29-2019, 10:20 AM

Just a reminder: The most important qualifier for a tow vehicle is it's stopping capability, not it's towing capability.

mobilemike · 06-29-2019, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JIMNLIN

Your gettin' closer......keep digging for the rest of those differences between the F150HDPP and the std duty F150.

You make my point.

Why would I need to dig even that far for all the additions to the F150 to make it haul like a f250 when the F150HDDP is a unicorn and the F250 is as common as dirt

JpalmerCass · 06-29-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gk42

Just a reminder: The most important qualifier for a tow vehicle is it's stopping capability, not it's towing capability.

Trailers have brakes.

cantexan · 06-29-2019, 05:08 PM

I seldom see any reference to frontal area when discussing towing. Any engineering type folks out there that can offer some insight regarding this?

Woo10-210 · 06-29-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cantexan

I seldom see any reference to frontal area when discussing towing. Any engineering type folks out there that can offer some insight regarding this?

The wind load on a flat surface is the velocity squared X .00256. An 8' X 8' frontal area will have a load of 692 pounds at 65mph. At 55 mph it's only 495 pounds so dropping your speed 10 mph drops the frontal wind load almost 30%. The tv manufacturers will state the maximum frontal area in their towing guide. Most are around 60 square feet.

2019 150:

vanion2 · 06-29-2019, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JpalmerCass

Trailers have brakes.

RV brakes are made to assist in stopping. GK42 is correct, the truck needs to be rated to stop the GCWR, thus the reason each truck has one.

egwilly · 06-29-2019, 06:13 PM

Jshopes81 · 06-29-2019, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vanion2

RV brakes are made to assist in stopping. GK42 is correct, the truck needs to be rated to stop the GCWR, thus the reason each truck has one.

According to dot you are incorrect. Any trailer over 3000lbs must have a functioning brake system that is able to stop and hold it at its rated gvw. The brakes arent for assisting, theyre for stopping and holding. Gcvw isnt a legal number for anything.