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Old 04-06-2014, 02:49 PM   #15
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A friend and I took our campers to Colorado. He had a chevy 1500 towing a 25' tt around 8,000#. We towed our Mobile Suites 17,000# with our chevy 3500 dually. He could only make 35-45 on hills. took miles to get up to speed. We had no problems maintaining speed at all. He got rid of truck and bought a 2500 diesel. jfri
1/2 ton chevys aren't much good for towing heavy stuff, they are basically mall crawlers. They have really low gear ratios trying to achieve mpgs. Ford 1/2 tons are much better for towing.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:08 PM   #16
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Here is what happens here in my area.
No one wants a diesel for everyday use. Therefore the gas trucks are very popular. Maybe 30% of all vehicles and most household owns one.
The half ton is the truck of choice for everyday use.
To tow economically with gas the 1/2 ton is more popular because of the weight advantage. And no one tows a 5th wheel with a 1/2 ton loaded to the gills.
Everyone depends on the empty weight and load a few weekend articles. The refer is only 1/2 full and the cupboard are hardly existing.
How can anyone load 2000 lbs in a weekender. Besides there is no time loading it.
Full time is different, we might have 1000 lbs and full water tank is not a problem for a diesel truck.
I see 90% of the trailers towed by 1/2 tons. While 90 % of the trailers towed by 1 ton trucks can be towed safely with smaller trucks.
But for gas trucks the advantage is the 1/2 ton.
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Here is what happens here in my area.
Where is your area?

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I really hate these 1/2,3/4,.... ton names. because Now you have Many different capacities and if you compare one to another that was made 10 or 20 years ago. Then you are comparing Grapefruit, to Apples, to Oranges, to Grapes.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:04 PM   #19
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I really hate these 1/2,3/4,.... ton names. because Now you have Many different capacities and if you compare one to another that was made 10 or 20 years ago. Then you are comparing Grapefruit, to Apples, to Oranges, to Grapes.
Yea no kidding. You can get an f150 with a payload of 3120 pounds of you want! That's almost as much as my srw f350 Platinum, lol!

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If you get the smaller truck that is max'ed out what happens when you want that bigger, nicer trailer? With a F-350 SRW (single rear wheel) you will have room to grow. Plus it will be a joy towing.
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I think everyone brought up some serious points, like full time or weekender and of course payload. In my youth I towed with my old 1994 f150 5.8 and it did just fine. But in hindsight the whistle of the turbo getting twice the mileage and twice the breaking sure is sweet and comfortable. I do have more control with the bigger truck hands down. I also towed with the 5.4 but same effect. My Duramax and super duty are far better towing for me.Plus I may pass one of your family members on the road? Should I be driving a maxed out f150?
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1/2 ton chevys aren't much good for towing heavy stuff, they are basically mall crawlers. They have really low gear ratios trying to achieve mpgs. Ford 1/2 tons are much better for towing.
I think you mean high gear ratio. Lower numerical number.
It would tow the weight fine, the pin weight would be a bit much I'm thinking though.
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I think you mean high gear ratio. Lower numerical number.
It would tow the weight fine, the pin weight would be a bit much I'm thinking though.
Yea, sorry. Lower numerical number struggles more when towing. Payload doesn't really matter to the struggling up hills problem, total trailer weight and gear ratio comes into play there.
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In eastern canada where we use trucks for real work.
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Lol, we do real work here in the usa so we use super dutys. Once you go diesel you never go back to gas!
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I have a so called 1/2 ton 5'er. It's not really listed as a 1/2 ton 5'er by the manf though. The dry pin is 1385lbs, the dry stickered UVW is 7315lbs. All loaded the pin is 1800lbs and the 5'er is 9000lbs. I pack what I want and don't ever worry about the 5'ers GVW or the trucks GVW. The 5'er has a CCC of 4315lbs. Quite a lot for a 28'er. So loading whatever I want is no problem. Our truck is a Ram 2500 CTD. I get 10.5-11.9 mpg towing and 17-19 empty on the hwy/interstate. I don't slow down on hills and rarely touch the trucks brakes coming down, thanks to the great exhaust brake.
I really hated it when we had our F150 and 7300lbs TT. I was always maxed on RAWR and always just getting by when towing.
We tow about 4-5000 miles a year and IMO having a 2500 makes it so much more enjoyable. If I only went out 6-7 times a year, I don't think I would even buy a TT. I'd just stay in a cabin or a yurt. We spend about 50 nights a year out along with three 3 week vacations. We pretty much try and go as much as the weather allows during the year.

I see more and more 1/2 ton trucks towing 5'ers lately. Doesn't make it right and it's entirely possible that some or most got suckered into the 1/2 ton towable theory by the RV dealer and don't even know they're over GVW or RAWR on the truck. Anyone who knows truck payload and tow ratings can tell which trucks are probably over. Tundras and Ram trucks have some of the lowest CCC's of any. But even the mighty F150 in an upper trim level could easily only have 12-1400lbs of CCC. Tundras are in the 14-1600lb range. Start with a dry pin in the 1200lb range, add 500lbs for gear and 5th hitch and they are all over GVW.

It always seems like most new trailer buyers want the smallest truck and the biggest trailer. Then they complain about sway or want to know why the rear end is dragging on the ground. Live and learn I guess.
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