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Old 04-05-2014, 09:17 PM   #1
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F150 OK for 5ver @ 7000lb Dry

Hi All:
Ford dealer claims F150 bed payload cannot support 7klb dry Keystone Cougar 244RL and wants to sell us a F350.
Any thoughts - F150/F250/F350 GREATLY appreciated
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:31 PM   #2
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I would go with a 3/4 ton. If you are planning on any hilly, especially mountainous, trips I would also go with a diesel.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:45 AM   #4
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It's not the bed so much as the frame & suspension. According to the '12 specs, this unit will gross up to 10k with minimum 1270 on the pin. I'd be careful about getting a truck from the same place too though. No matter what though, you need at least a 250/2500 3/4 ton truck.
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Old 04-06-2014, 04:53 AM   #5
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What's the pin weight, 1400-1500lbs? I wouldn't plan a vehicle purchase based on dry towing weights... Sounds like you have an honest dealer that wants to sell you what you need.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:27 AM   #6
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If your dry is 7k, your GVWR is probably 10k? Thus a 2k pin weight. With hitch and etc. your probably looking at 2.5k altogether.

Towing Guides | fleet.ford.com Towing guide.

You go for a Regular cab in a 150, you might be able to swing it (check numbers on page 10 of the towing guide, assuming your looking at 2014). Any other configuration, no way.

250 will generally work, staying away from diesel (which would eat up capacity), though it could be close with gas. Do the math.

350 is much easier. It will work. If its not much more for a 350 over a 250, then its an easy choice (take the 350).

Go long box and get the much larger fuel cell.
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Hi All:
Ford dealer claims F150 bed payload cannot support 7klb dry Keystone Cougar 244RL and wants to sell us a F350.
Any thoughts - F150/F250/F350 GREATLY appreciated
Thanks!
Cathy
Forget the 350, you are not pulling a 38fts 5th wheeler, it's only 7K, I have a beautifull setup with a 7K Cruiser, we travel all over the state and Canada using a Ram 1500 with added heavy duty adjustable air balloons, these new lite weight 5thers are made to be town with 1500 pickup truck, ask your RV dealer, since the Ram is also our family vehicle we sure enjoy the smooth ride of a 1500,
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Just remember 2000 lb pin weight is measurement on a smooth level driveway.
On a hill and a hill with a curve you will decide to quit towing very quickly.
Most of my friends whom decide to start camping with us always try to convince
me that their 1/2 ton can make the trip. So far in 10 yrs or so we have seen 2 of them totaled in simple stopping or breaking in a curve. By the time you loose control the fifth wheel starts steering the truck.
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Just remember 2000 lb pin weight is measurement on a smooth level driveway.
On a hill and a hill with a curve you will decide to quit towing very quickly.
Most of my friends whom decide to start camping with us always try to convince
me that their 1/2 ton can make the trip. So far in 10 yrs or so we have seen 2 of them totaled in simple stopping or breaking in a curve. By the time you loose control the fifth wheel starts steering the truck.
10 years ago RV manufacturerd did not make decent quality very light weight 5th wheel. I gess they finaly understood that they needed to make RV that could be towed with the most selling vehicle in North America F-150 or any 1/2 t with V-8 engine, many like me use there Pick-up for every used, so we don't need to buy a 3/4t or a 1t for a few weeks and a few weekend vacation a year. My opinion
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:44 PM   #10
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Hi All:
Ford dealer claims F150 bed payload cannot support 7klb dry Keystone Cougar 244RL and wants to sell us a F350.
Any thoughts - F150/F250/F350 GREATLY appreciated
Thanks!
Cathy
What year F150? Older 2000s, no. Newest ones, possibly.

And don't use dry weights. Will you never put water, propane, or supplies in it? If so, dry is fine. Otherwise, use GVWR as a better guideline.
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Old 04-06-2014, 01:51 PM   #11
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In time you will want to get a bigger 5er. Get the 3500 with a diesel then you don't ever have to worry about it. Just my opinion
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If you already have the 5ver, I'd go with a F250.
after all it not something like this:



2nd owner said "it towed fine behind my 3/4 ton"
for the curious
Length from Hitch to tail is 46' 6"
Weight is 15980 fully loaded with jeep, fuel, water, groceries, etc.
Pin weight with jeep on the back is 2250 lbs

weights were weighed by 2nd owner, top pic is from 1st owner.
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:23 PM   #13
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The f350 is always better but the f150 should do it depending on payload and pin weight. I pulled a Keystone cougar 276rls with my 2010 f150 with the 5.4l. Lariat fully loaded, payload was only 1230 and pin weight was around 1400 empty. I figured I was 500-800 pounds over payload but it didn't even squat. I have a diesel f350 now and it doesn't even know it's pulling. Ran 2200 rpms at 65 on flat ground. It slowed down and downshifted on hills and I don't think it would be very enjoyable going through mountains but the Eco boost would do better. Plus mine was around 9k loaded.
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A friend and I took our campers to Colorado. He had a chevy 1500 towing a 25' tt around 8,000#. We towed our Mobile Suites 17,000# with our chevy 3500 dually. He could only make 35-45 on hills. took miles to get up to speed. We had no problems maintaining speed at all. He got rid of truck and bought a 2500 diesel. jfri
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