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Old 02-13-2007, 11:00 AM   #15
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Gaia,

I have yet to make my final decision, but have been doing research for the past 3 years.

I started out thinking about a purchase price of $25000 for the trailer plus the cost of a TV.

After looking for something to use like you are going do, I have re-worked the budget.....trailer went up to around $50-60K plus another $45 for a new TV. So, what started out as around $50K has now turned into more like $100K. And I know that will give me a mighty fine outfit to allow both flexibility and quality.

Here is how I would look:

1. Quality
2. Livability
3. Flexibility
4. Value (not cheap, but total value)
5. Buying New or Used

My opinions so far in 5r:

NuWa
Titanium by Glendale
KZ

Not in that order, but a list to start with and compare with.

The Titanium is different in that you can get 5 extra feet in living length while pulling 5 less feet in length. They have an Over the Cab design that extends the head of the bed over the hitch area freeing up 5 extra feet in the lounge area. With this unique design, they are said to be more aerodynamic and become easy to pull.

They don't produce the 25DS30 since 05 but I have seen many new ones available on lots in the $49K range.

Do your own research, learn about the difference in frame, wall and roof designs. Look for the little things; note the fit and finish, cabinetry, etc.

Check out financial projections for cost of living. Looks like a conservitive cost for 2 might run around $3K a month. If you like to party and eat at nicer restaurants, well, just add to that. Don't forget the "unplanned" maintenance budget.

If you were confused before, I bet you are confused at an even higher level, now.
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Old 02-13-2007, 06:43 PM   #17
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Another good trailer to look for in the '90 era is the Avion 5th wheel units. Well built trailers and hold up pretty well. Ours is a 1995 model and is starting to show it's age, but still sound. Problems we have had with it are:
1. front landing gear is weak, but can be repaired (especially on the 1994, 5 and 6, the 35' and 36' trailers).
2. we broke on of the Dexter rubber in shear axles on some really rough road.
3. Had to have the slides adjusted, not the easiest thing to do, but fixable.

Unit has a fully enclosed and heated basement.

Due to the weight and size of mine (they tend to be heavy), we are slightly over on GCWR with our 2002 F350 1 ton dually. It is too much trailer for a 3/4 ton or a single rear wheel trailer and I would not want to pull it with a gas engine.

The trailers were pretty much top of the line when they were new. All wood (no particle board in the trailer, Corian counter tops, full size furniture, convection microwave and on and on.

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Thanks again for all the input. Any thoughts on the Aljo by Skyline (2003) for winter use? It seems to be very hard to find this kind of specs on the internet...

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Your input again, please! We're seriously considering a 30' 1993 Prowler fifth wheel. The owner says that it has "A WINTER INSULATION KIT ON THE BOTTOM". Any thoughts on this trailer?
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I have never considered the Prowler a true 4-season trailer. For a true 4 season trailer, it will have the fresh and waste tanks in a heated bay in the basemnet. In additon, the dump vlaves will also be in a heated area. It will have additional insulation as well.

Some trailers will have a heating pad under the tanks which must be turned on in freezing weather. I guess you could add heat tape to the waste valves and insulate them as well.

If you plan to do much cold weather camping, I'd sure be considering the real 4-season trailer as monetioned above.

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Hello All and thanks again for your feedback. I think we have decided on an Alpenlite 29' fifth wheel for our little home on wheels. It seems that almost all reviews of Alpenlites are positive and we spoke to a very nice man at their dealership who was very helpful. According to him, all Alpenlites made after 1993 are 4-season trailers, heated basement, the works. So we're excited! We have a lead on one in particular, which leads me to my questions for y'all:

He is selling the fifth wheel as well as a Dodge 3500 dual rear wheel four door truck (2WD). Any thoughts on the miles per gallon we can expect with that truck pulling that trailer? Just an approximate guess would be great.

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We get 10-11 MPG on the road towing our 36' 5th wheel with a 2WD Dodge dually. With a lighter 29' 5th wheel, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect 12-13 MPG. That's assuming that it's a diesel, of course!!

The Alpenlite you found sounds like a really nice rig. Best of luck!

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