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Old 02-11-2013, 07:44 AM   #1
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frame failure

I am buying my 3rd hr. The first two were motorhomes. I keep hearing about frame failures but not on holiday ramblers. I am looking at a 2008 29ckd fifth wheel that has only been towed about 3000 miles. Is being a smaller one an advantage or has hr not had any failures. Any comments would be appreciated.
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Frame failures, while there have been some, are rare. And of those I have read about, most of them were either poor manufacturing processess (low quality welds, inadequate welds, low grade steel, etc.) or inadequate engineering. I have not heard of either of these being a problem for Holiday Rambler.
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HR makes an alluminum frrame also. What does this coach have? Regardless, have a qualified welder inspect it.
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frame failure

I thing the walls are framed in aluminum but the base frame is steel.
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HR Alumiscape is an all alum frame.
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The frame issues have been with RVs that use the Lippert frame.

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The frame issues have been with RVs that use the Lippert frame.

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X2 and they are not rare.

On the Lippert frame they are very common.

Most of the failures are at the spring hangers and are not to time consuming to repair although having the “X” factor kit installed before it fails make it pretty munch a non event other than the excessive tire wear that will happen in just a few hundred miles.

Also if it is a Lippert frame you probably have Lippert front legs as well I have had to replace mine every year starting with the first ones when the trailer was only 2 months old.

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HR Alumiscape is an all alum frame.
My Alumiscape had a steel frame. I had to replace some flooring and it was a steel frame for sure.
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So folks, I can't get any conclusions. Surely as many fifth wheelers with lippert frames that are on the roads some rv makers are having lippert make better frames than others. As much as these rigs cost their has got to be some makers who are exceptional. My origional question is does a 2008 holiday rambler 29ckd have frame issues. I would think that by 2008 lippert would have figured out their problems. Yes or no.
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I would think that by 2008 lippert would have figured out their problems. Yes or no.
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NO

Lippert still hasn’t “fixed” the problem. The 2013’s are having the same frame problems.



Following is an opinion!!!!

What we don’t see are problems with the trailers that are less GVW rated. The problems seem to be with the trailers above 13,000 LB GVW rating.


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Thank you ! Just as I suspected that the heavy rig had the problems. The one I am getting has a loaded gvw of 14000 however empty it is only 9300. So many start at 11000 empty then go to 14000 full. I assume you are talking loaded gve of 13000. Has the dot got involved however as slow as the government works it probably wont do any good. If I was a manufacturer I would think twice about a lippert frame. I am going to put air tailair hitch on it to help with the stress of rough roads on the front end.

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New Horizons builds their own steel frames, heavy, and very well built.
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Hi

Lifestyle builds there own frame as well and doesn’t use any Lippert parts.

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Excel builds their own fully "boxed" frame. No "I" beam or "C" channel.
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