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06-22-2014, 05:21 PM
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Excellent reply Cumminsfan. Well said.
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06-22-2014, 05:50 PM
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the only way to be sure is to take your truck to the scales and weigh it, loaded up ready to tow. then add 150# for a 5th wheel hitch. Then you will KNOW what pin weight and GCWR you can handle. As others have stated, 20% of the trailers GVWR is good for figuring the pin weight. Then you will eliminate all of the probably's and maybe's and you can search for something you can safely tow.
Looks like the F-250 GCWR is roughly 16,000# but check you door jamb. If you subtract the weight of your WEIGHED truck from that you'll know how much trailer to get.
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06-22-2014, 07:49 PM
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amexpress,
The I guess and probably's come because we don't know the exact numbers of the OP's truck and are relying on what we know from similar trucks, but they do vary somewhat. Once we know the door sticker numbers for GVWR and GAWR of the OP's truck and the actual scale weight of the truck ready to haul, then there would be no guess.
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06-23-2014, 11:57 AM
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What the tow weight is is what you can haul. They figure the truck with fuel and fluids and your and your wifes weight are closer to the front then rear. Thier is a fudge factor on these weights . Being a thousand lbs or so over is no big deal. Put some air bags on and don't speed keep your tire pressure right and you will be ok. These guys become obessed with the G factor. They will have you pulling a pop up and worrying aboout that. LOL
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06-23-2014, 12:42 PM
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Awesome replies.... Thank you
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06-23-2014, 02:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jacknife
What the tow weight is is what you can haul. They figure the truck with fuel and fluids and your and your wifes weight are closer to the front then rear. Thier is a fudge factor on these weights . Being a thousand lbs or so over is no big deal. Put some air bags on and don't speed keep your tire pressure right and you will be ok. These guys become obessed with the G factor. They will have you pulling a pop up and worrying aboout that. LOL
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In 2006, Master Lock did their annual study on towing safety to see how many Americans tow their cargo correctly. The study, Towing Troubles included responses from trailer owners across the country and found that while the majority of trailer owners believe they know what they’re doing when it comes to towing, most were lacking the proper education. Master Lock reported that 70 percent of trailer owners did not fully know the correct way to tow their cargo.
From FMCA
Before towing ... actually, before buying a motorhome, find out the motorhome's gross combination weight rating (GCWR) and the amount of weight it can safely tow without supplemental brakes. The GCWR is the maximum allowable total loaded weight of the motorhome and towed vehicle combined. The GCWR and unbraked load capacity are specified by the chassis manufacturer.
The GCWR is not related to a motorhome's braking capability; it is based on the motorhome's ability to pull the towed vehicle. If the towed vehicle's weight is greater than the unbraked towing capacity of the motorhome chassis, a supplemental braking system should be considered. Some chassis manufacturers recommend that supplemental brakes be used when pulling towed vehicles that weigh as little as 1,000 pounds.
Towing too heavy of a vehicle can lead to a "tail wagging the dog" scenario. During an emergency lane change or a lane change on wet roadways, a heavy towed vehicle could push the rear of the motorhome sideways, creating unstable driving conditions and a dangerous situation for the occupants and others sharing the road.
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06-23-2014, 03:47 PM
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Check open range also. I think they have a fr and thier trls are preety light .
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06-24-2014, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by amxpress
I read a lot of "guesses" and "probably" which has ended with nothing but doubt in the OP's mind. Why not provide real useful information instead of "opinions" that are not factual?
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Yup - without hard numbers, exact models and precise weights I will always say probably, maybe, should be and might be because if I say it will work someone will always come back and say "You said it will work" without doing their due diligence.
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06-24-2014, 08:12 AM
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You did not state the cab/drive/rear.
So:
5er you are between 15900 and 16800.
GVWR 9900 or 10000
With a carry capacity of 3040-4240.
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