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Old 11-04-2012, 02:08 PM   #1
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I have a 2007 Grand Junction 35TMS: If it helps anyone I will offer the following:

1. Biggest disappointment - Thetford company - Norcold refer - Toilets
This company puts out total junk. Changed out the leaker toilet to sealand and it is much nicer. Refer is horrible never works consistently on 3rd board. solenoids always stick - electric side never works - junk junk junk model N811

2. Tires: Powermax about 15k miles down to the cord.
Goodyear marathon - total crap. Blow out under 5K

3. To many windows hard to heat at 10 degrees and below
Get a rear entertainment center and get rid of the huge window in the back

4. Furnace main outlet in bedroom need main outlet in living room

If this helps anyone - great - If it stops anyone from using Thetford - even greater.

I will look at redwood and infinity when I am ready to upgrade But will replace all thetford with Dometic.
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Your Grand Junction is made by Thor, the same people that make Redwood. If you really want to up grade, you need to mover to a DRV, Lifestyle Luxury RV, HitchHiker, New Discovery, Excel or that group of trailers. Thor does no build anything to compare to these trailers.

The above trailers are rated as true full time units and are well insulated.

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Why do you say the Thetford was junk?
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:28 PM   #4
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Why do you say the Thetford was junk?
on the aqua 2 toilet the lever and guts are cheap plastic. the lever breaks and the plastic guts leak. The norcold has been a problem after 6 mo. Matter of fact as I am writing this it only works on propane and I am having trouble keeping it lit. I have been though 3 elect boards - 2 electric heating elements and two solenoids two thermistors. I don't know what you think but where I come from that spells piece of junk and saying junk is being nice on the forum.
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Your Grand Junction is made by Thor, the same people that make Redwood. If you really want to up grade, you need to mover to a DRV, Lifestyle Luxury RV, HitchHiker, New Discovery, Excel or that group of trailers. Thor does no build anything to compare to these trailers.

The above trailers are rated as true full time units and are well insulated.

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Yes and a good point I will check into them.
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Whoa now killer. No need to be tough online.
Never really had more Thetfords leak than Sealands. Not for "cheap" reasons, but just cause they leaked.
And are you sure that the refr just isn't getting fixed right?
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Your Grand Junction is made by Thor, the same people that make Redwood. If you really want to up grade, you need to mover to a DRV, Lifestyle Luxury RV, HitchHiker, New Discovery, Excel or that group of trailers. Thor does no build anything to compare to these trailers.

The above trailers are rated as true full time units and are well insulated.

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Also I thought Thor had upped their game with the redwood and infinity
38SKSB3 by DRV does ring the bell
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Also I thought Thor had upped their game with the redwood

Hmmm... let me get this correct. A unit with 2" walls, a 12" I frame with a 10" drop frame that tries to carry all the weight given in their standard set up (holding and water tank size and the interior cabinetry that looks nice but... ) IS JUST AS good as a unit with 3.25" walls and a 15" BOX frame ???? Too many people on here listen to the manufacturer's propaganda than looking at what is plainly stated in the manufacturer's specifications. I'm not trying to start a mine is better than yours discussion but there are differences one needs to look at when trying to upgrade to a better unit. And then what usually happens is that it boils down to what you want to spend. After that the justification for our choice begins.
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Roamy: I am sorry to tell you that Dometic has just as many problems.

There are no good RV suppliers of toilets or refrigerators today. Both makers have some real quality control issues.

Both makers have the same model refrigerators recalled two or three times.
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Your Grand Junction is made by Thor, the same people that make Redwood. If you really want to up grade, you need to mover to a DRV, Lifestyle Luxury RV, HitchHiker, New Discovery, Excel or that group of trailers. Thor does no build anything to compare to these trailers.

The above trailers are rated as true full time units and are well insulated.

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Please correct me if I am wrong, but did you mean to say New Horizons?
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Roamy: I am sorry to tell you that Dometic has just as many problems.

There are no good RV suppliers of toilets or refrigerators today. Both makers have some real quality control issues.

Both makers have the same model refrigerators recalled two or three times.
Ii had a thetford toilet for 15 years. No problems at all. 3 year old sealand and changed seals twice.

We fulltime in a very affordable and easy to tow Big Country by Heartland.
Tonight it's 21F and we are fine with double pane windows.

And the previous unit was 15 years old and we had Full timed in it the last 4 years. Traded for bigger. It was like new when we traded.
Its not what you pay but what maintenance you do to it that pays off.
When there is lots of windows, who cares about the wall thickness.
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Hmmm... let me get this correct. A unit with 2" walls, a 12" I frame with a 10" drop frame that tries to carry all the weight given in their standard set up (holding and water tank size and the interior cabinetry that looks nice but... ) IS JUST AS good as a unit with 3.25" walls and a 15" BOX frame ???? Too many people on here listen to the manufacturer's propaganda than looking at what is plainly stated in the manufacturer's specifications. I'm not trying to start a mine is better than yours discussion but there are differences one needs to look at when trying to upgrade to a better unit. And then what usually happens is that it boils down to what you want to spend. After that the justification for our choice begins.
I agree. I'm in Elkhart, Indiana visiting family and today looked over a Mobile Suites and a Redwood side by side. I'm already a DRV fan but really wanted to see a Redwood in person. Besides what you mentioned, I'll also say that the interior doesn't come close to the quality of the Mobile Suites. I could notice the increased insulation too.

Both models were for sale within $1,000 of each other too. To me that is a no brainer.
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Roamy: I am sorry to tell you that Dometic has just as many problems.

There are no good RV suppliers of toilets or refrigerators today. Both makers have some real quality control issues.

Both makers have the same model refrigerators recalled two or three times.
It is the thetford with the problem the dometic is perfect
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Hmmm... let me get this correct. A unit with 2" walls, a 12" I frame with a 10" drop frame that tries to carry all the weight given in their standard set up (holding and water tank size and the interior cabinetry that looks nice but... ) IS JUST AS good as a unit with 3.25" walls and a 15" BOX frame ???? Too many people on here listen to the manufacturer's propaganda than looking at what is plainly stated in the manufacturer's specifications. I'm not trying to start a mine is better than yours discussion but there are differences one needs to look at when trying to upgrade to a better unit. And then what usually happens is that it boils down to what you want to spend. After that the justification for our choice begins.
This is very good to know. If you have other such comparisons please post them. It would save a lot of time for those who seriously want to go full-time
I can't even figure out where I want to live full time after being in my Fiver for so long.
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