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Old 08-27-2010, 12:39 PM   #1
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Another "newbie" question. As I mentioned on the thread below I started today, we used to own a Class A, haven't had a rig for almost 4 years and are now trying to decide between a Class C and a truck and fifth wheel.

We looked at 5th Wheels yesterday for the first time and were told by the salesman that almost NONE of them come with generators. To reiterate, even if we could afford a new top of the line rig, we could not buy one because I need the rig to be fully offgassed and that takes at least 3 years or more.

Have always gotten good advice here, and have a basic mistrust of salespeople. Is that true? that Fifth wheels do not customarily come with generators?

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Old 08-27-2010, 01:10 PM   #2
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When we ordered ours it was an option that we bypassed. We bought 2 Honda 2000's and hardly ever use them. What's offgassed?
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Why do you need a 5000 dollar generator in a fifth wheel when a two thousand dollar generator will do the same job? With a generator built into my fiver I would have a unitasker. With my portable I have a multitasker. That is I can take it out in the yard and run a hedge trimmeror what ever other tasks need doing that require 120VAC power and no power is available.
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Not sure, but think the 'offgassed' might refer to getting ALL the smell/odors out of a newly-constructed unit. Possibly allergy problems? If thats not it, no idea??

As to a gen-equipped fiver--the higher the cost, the more likely it will be gen-prepped. Then it just becomes a dealer-installed option.

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Yes - "off gassed" refers to, specifically, fumes from formaldehyde and other preservatives in construction materials to which I am extremely allergic.
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Why would the "rules" governing generator inclusion in an upscale 5th wheel/trailer be any different than for a similarly equipped MH?

They both include the same general floor space and appliances, go the same places, in the same climates - so why would a built-in generator that is easily accepted in a MH, seem unusual in a 5th wheel or trailer?
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Fuel supply is the drawback in a 5er. Many folks do not want gas and the related fumes and dangers below their bed. Propane is very inefficient in a generator application and a tank does not last long. In most motorhomes the generator is in front, away from the bedroom thus no noise and the fuel supply is normally drawn from the engine supply tank so that makes most of the fuel concerns go away, especially with diesel pushers. All just my experience and opinions.
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Fuel supply is the drawback in a 5er. Many folks do not want gas and the related fumes and dangers below their bed. Propane is very inefficient in a generator application and a tank does not last long. In most motorhomes the generator is in front, away from the bedroom thus no noise and the fuel supply is normally drawn from the engine supply tank so that makes most of the fuel concerns go away, especially with diesel pushers. All just my experience and opinions.

All good observations - and yet, one of the very FIRST things 5er and trailer owners start shopping for after acquiring their RV - is a generator...
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You can get generators that run from propane....but they do use a lot of propane'

Lots of 5ers offer a generator as an option or a generator prep kit. But for the most part, you will do better with a Honda 3500 or a pair of 2000 watts.

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Why could the generator not be located on the towing vehicle for the 5ers, and use the towing vehicle's gas tank? It would require running cables from the vehicle to the 5er but would eliminate many of the problems of fuel and storage. Haven't done it (of course) but it seems like a good idea. Hang on - read my signature...
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Most of the less expensive generators are gasoline. The larger trucks used to tow the larger 5ers are diesel....can't operate from the diesel tank. Honda does offer an extended run time tank which you could set in the bed of the truck with the generator. But you will have to bolt of chain down the generator and tank. The thinks seem to grow feet and walk if when left unattended.

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The off-gassing problem is accelerated by heat. On warm/hot days open all windows, roof vents, and the door. Turn on fans to circulate air through the RV. Most all RV owners manuals caution occupants not to smoke http://www.airstream.com/docs/2007_Interstate_OM.pdf, as it contains formaldehyde, which is contained in a relatively small space.
We carry a http://http://boliyusa.com/ Boliy 3600 invertor series generator in the truck-bed and a 5 G safety-type can of gas. Now we trailer owners have a solution to refueling the genset - Extended Run Fuel Tanks IPI Duration Power
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A pair of Honda 2000's and a pair of 2 1/2-3 gallon gas cans fit nicely between the 5th wheel hitch and the tailgate of a pickup. If you have a gas engined pickup (vs diesel), it also gives you a backup fuel supply.
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I am not aware of any stock 5th wheels which have generators built-in by the manufacturer. A few, such as Keystone's Montana line, offer that as an option, but it costs more. It is uncommon, at the moment, for 5th wheels to even be pre-wired for generators. Those that are tend to be higher-end ones, with Keystone's Montana line being the exception - all Montana models are pre-wired for generators. Most people who get generators for their 5th wheels have those installed by RV dealers.

In terms of out-gassing limiting your search to used 5th wheels, though, I'd go with higher-end models such as the Carriage Cameo. 5th wheel frames are susceptible to damage from road vibrations, washboarding, etc., so you should limit your search to 5th wheels which have especially durable frames. Carriage 5th wheels may be the best in this regard. Crossroads Sevilles are also worth looking at.

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