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Old 11-14-2012, 06:37 PM   #85
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Bruce H.

New member here and looking to purchase a Timber Ridge 250RDS. Interested in the optional Girard tankless water heater (2nd. Gen). Are you still having good luck with yours as I know the 1st. Gen was problematic to say the least.

Anyone else care to jump in with your experiences with the Girard 2nd. Gen?

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Old 11-15-2012, 07:51 AM   #86
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Still fighting with original girard. Just got back from 2 week trip and only can use shower by turning hot water on in sink also.It will be to hot then turn cold it is a piece of junk.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:43 AM   #87
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Since installing the 2nd gen. Girard, we've only camped once. As I wrote earlier, the Girard performed very well. I really like it and would highly recommend it.

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Old 11-15-2012, 09:14 AM   #88
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Bruce H.

New member here and looking to purchase a Timber Ridge 250RDS. Interested in the optional Girard tankless water heater (2nd. Gen). Are you still having good luck with yours as I know the 1st. Gen was problematic to say the least.

Anyone else care to jump in with your experiences with the Girard 2nd. Gen?

Terry
We have used our 2nd gen Girard on three separate camping trips, so far no issues or problems . Have not used it in hot weather yet, but I don't anticipate any prolems due to the wide range of temp selections avalible.
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So is there a retrofit option for moving the 1stgen to the 2nd gen controller? Or does it require a total replacement? It does not look so bad if you can just change out the controller.
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:18 PM   #90
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I found out what the problem was with ours....

Air in the water lines...

I have w/d prep but no w/d and the line to the w/d closet had air in the lines...
once I bleed the air out of those, the water temp was consistent

(and I have a gen 1 version)

I just need to remember this each year after blowing out the lines with air...

next camping trip of the season I need to run a hose out the window from the washer/dryer closet
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There is not a retrofit kit for changing a generation #1 (GSWH-1) to a genration #2 (GSWH-1M).
However, if you have an issue with too warm of incoming water (summer in the south - southwest) Girard does have a fix for that.
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Old 01-14-2013, 07:10 AM   #92
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Hi. I'm no expert. But if you temperature fluctuates hot and cold. Water is passing to fast through the heater and cooling it down.
I would slow the water down. That would give you a more constant temperature, which will be hot water. As you add cold water it will cool it down. The slower the water flows through the heater the more constant the temperature. That's how the one in my house works.
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Old 01-15-2013, 11:48 AM   #93
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Replaced with conventional heater

I started this stream in frustration with our Girard tankless heater. After much discussion with Forest River about our 2012 Wildcat 302L 5th wheel, they agreed to replace the Girard with a conventional hot water heater. There was only space for a 6 gallon tank. I would of loved a 10 but can live with 6. First they put in a propane only tank which was unacceptable.

I assumed they would put in an electric/propane tank but they did not. So, we had more discussion, and finally Forest River agreed to add a Hot Shot electric converter. The dealer said it cost $900 this time. They had to install electric into the cavity, add a breaker, and a switch inside the coach. So, now we have an electric/propane six-gallon hot water tank. What a relief to be done with the Girard tankless system.

Thanks to Forest River.
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Hi. I'm no expert. But if you temperature fluctuates hot and cold. Water is passing to fast through the heater and cooling it down.
I would slow the water down. That would give you a more constant temperature, which will be hot water. As you add cold water it will cool it down. The slower the water flows through the heater the more constant the temperature. That's how the one in my house works.
Agree,
but that's once there is only water in the system

with air in some of the lines it fooled the system...
once purged it now works fine and LOVING we can take hot showers until the holding tank overflows
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Cross posting this since there are so many threads about how bad the system is.

If for some reason you do have this system. Do not expect them to last more then 7 months and they will not stand behind the warranty. The first one had a pipe burst while in use and the second one had 2 leaking pipes inside the unit when it was installed.

Multiple trips to the dealer to fix these units over 3 thousand dollars in repair costs and replacement costs.
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SO many ? there are two

and I've had mine for over a year.... once lines were purged of air works great.
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We're now at Beaver Dam Campground in La. Still having problems with this 1 generation Girard .I have bled air out of lines, water pressure here is very low when unit does come on it sounds like a jack hammer and water will be very hot and then cold.And yes I know about how to adjust flow been through all that.Why want Girard admit they have a problem with this system?
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carrollander:
If you have poor water pressure.
Are you using a water pressure regulator? If yes, remove it and try.
If still a low pressure problem you might need to use your fresh water tank rather than shore hook-up.
You need to have about 1 GPM flow for the Water Heater to operate properly.
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