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Old 09-08-2015, 07:43 AM   #29
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To start, change a front wheel bearing yet ? Or anything that the big three has decided to attach to the truck as a "assembly" vs a "part"....

Parts are so crammed on ...and this isn't my first RAM (and I have friends that have the other Big 2) that the labor charges way exceed the cost of the parts.. think of the ford diesel (cannot remember year/model) that has to have it cab pulled off to do some engine work..

and I can go on..

The bigger trucks are built tougher and are easier to work on..no assemblies..a bearing is a bearing..look at the rig I am pulling...do I need a mdt ?

However, what sold me was the visibility from the cab, absolute comfort of the seat and sitting position (I suffer from a sever back injury in an auto accident), maneuverability, range, the absolute ease hauling with equivalent fuel mileage and the ability to move up rig size if the DW wants to without me having to think about changing TVs.. ..and the initial cost of the truck vs the new RAM 3500 I wanted.

A MDT is not for everybody....but it fits with our lifestyle what we want to do in the future..

You said less to "maintain" , anyway it's great to have choices.

Fact is there are many people dumping their MDT/HDT rigs for a new 3500 because the new 3500's are so much more capable than they used to be.
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:20 AM   #30
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I include repairs in maintenance or I would have have said just service.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

Cool..that will mean more mdts on the market however, from what I am seeing, the reverse is true as well...especially as folks move into bigger rigs.

From what I see of the new 3500s..and I do like them..I do see the pulling is improving and they have masses of electronics however, for the vast majority of the reasons I bought my rig, the 3500 will never be able to cvompete..

What a great hobby...

Cheers..
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Old 09-08-2015, 08:42 AM   #31
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My Ram loves to pull this 17.5K 5er. The pickup itself is a very refined vehicle, and very comfortable, but when the big 5er is attached it becomes a phenomenal tow vehicle. I love towing with it. Getting 11.5 mpg towing our Landmark. Over 13K towing this 5er over many, many mountain passes, with Zero issues. Here's the combo roadside on our way to the Adirondack park in NY.Click image for larger version

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Old 09-08-2015, 12:58 PM   #32
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My Ram loves to pull this 17.5K 5er. The pickup itself is a very refined vehicle, and very comfortable, but when the big 5er is attached it becomes a phenomenal tow vehicle. I love towing with it. Getting 11.5 mpg towing our Landmark. Over 13K towing this 5er over many, many mountain passes, with Zero issues. Here's the combo roadside on our way to the Adirondack park in NY.Attachment 106269
Nice!

My mileage is no where that! But i have towed in the mountains mostly.

What Axle ratio is yours?
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Nice!

My mileage is no where that! But i have towed in the mountains mostly.

What Axle ratio is yours?

It has the 4.10's with the Aisin trans. Just turned over 19,000 miles on the truck. The fuel milage is getting better. Love the gearing except when it's unloaded. 1900 rpms at 70 mph. It's not bad, but I really don't like going faster than that except for short Burts around other vehicles. It'll get to 90 real fast with these gears.
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Same combo here. Mileage is not a big deal since the truck does exactly what it is supposed to do. But I won't complain when the mileage starts improving. 6K on mine with about 1,800 towing.
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Yeah it'll get better. Both my newer 6.7's started getting better fuel consumption at around 17,000 miles on the clock. They also get a bit louder under the hood, at least mine did. I also run Diesel Clean in mine every other tank full. Probably wasting my money. Who knows. I worry that this new ultra clean fuel is dry, and lacks good lubricating properties. IDK.
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Old 09-09-2015, 09:09 AM   #36
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When you exceed 20k these duallys don't fair well in the Rockies. The turbo brakes along with the trucks light mass, things can get scary fast. I am in market for an HDT.
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I have a 2015 F-350 Platinum Dually CC long bed. I have a 23,500 pound capacity for a 5'er. I pull an 18,000 Carri-Lite with no problem.
I would suggest the F-350 for fuel mileage as it will be much better. I also suggest a 2015 or newer Ford as the turbo, fuel systems and exhaust brake are much more robust and reliable. I've had a Dodge and had many problems, I have two Blue Ovals and am very happy. Good luck and I love the Lux unit. That is my next 5'er in a couple of years.
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The 23,500 rating is for a goose neck trailer with a low weight. They are not tested with a 13ft tall, 105" wide 5th wheel rv. We have plenty of power, mine tows my Teton 20kish well. Coming down mountains is when things get interesting. Our trucks are too light to hold back this weight. The heavier the 5ther the more pronounced it is.
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The 23,500 rating is for a goose neck trailer with a low weight. They are not tested with a 13ft tall, 105" wide 5th wheel rv. We have plenty of power, mine tows my Teton 20kish well. Coming down mountains is when things get interesting. Our trucks are too light to hold back this weight. The heavier the 5ther the more pronounced it is.
Glen I have been in some over 6% grades towing our 23K MS with the new 15 RAM Dually and I can honestly say it's never felt unstable or out of control.

The Exhaust brake is even better with the 13 and newer RAM's. I always lock in the gear when descending that I ascended the other side in, set the cruise to 55 and let it roll. Depending on the grade I may need to touch the brakes and re set the cruise.

The factory rear air ride seems to be very stable with 9,500# sitting on the rear axle.
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Not doubting your numbers but how do you get 23k out of a 39' MS? My Teton is heavier built and we come shy of 21k slightly and we are full time with nothing in storage. We are just shy of 40'. You paid a lot more for your truck than I will for an HDT though. And no one can argue it is safer.
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Not doubting your numbers but how do you get 23k out of a 39' MS? My Teton is heavier built and we come shy of 21k slightly and we are full time with nothing in storage. We are just shy of 40'. You paid a lot more for your truck than I will for an HDT though. And no one can argue it is safer.

I don't know how it weighs 23K! The scale weight from the factory was barely over 18K. The gen prep and Commercial 6500 gen was added but that can't add more than 700# I would guess.

Lots in the lower storage but nothing super heavy. Wife makes jewelry and the components are heavy.

I need to hit the Cat Scales. I have been using the scales along the highway. They seem to be consistent.

Truck front 5,460# rear 9,580# trailer axles 17,500# Total 32,540# Had 100# water on board.

Last time weighing with about 15 gallons fresh front 5,400# rear 9,640# trailer 16,600# Total 31,640#.

Truck without RV is about 9,300# so without all that water i guess the RV is 22,340+-. Not sure where 4K worth of "STUFF" comes from!
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We don't have a generator and they are heavy. We added shy of 2k. Will lighten it up more with the HDT. Drom box. Up to 6 boxes on bed.
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