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Old 09-15-2015, 12:31 AM   #43
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Another big difference between a fiver and a motorhome is that the depreciation is considerably less on a fiver--especially if you put on a lot of miles. No odometer on the most expensive part of your setup.
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Old 09-15-2015, 10:26 PM   #44
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We have a 05 450 with a GCVW of 33,000. Our 5er has a GVWR of 18,000 and as towed is 17,856.

Could use a bit more power as we have the 6.0 litre but the truck is extremely stable. The newer 450 have more capacity as well as the new engine is supposed to be much better with more power.

We are under the GVWR by 3347, under the rear axle by 4505, under the front axle by 842, under the GCW by 5136, and the vertical load on the kingpin by 3355.
Well now I know who to ask if need someone to double check my weight calculations...
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Well now I know who to ask if need someone to double check my weight calculations...
RV Safety|RV Towing Calculator|Tow Ratings|GCWR

Step 4 on the site takes the numbers for the truck specs and the weights that are determined using a scale.

I was a project manager for the majority of my career managing road construction projects. As a representative of the road authority I had to make sure the contractor and his subcontractors worked in a safe manner. I had to know and understand the weight requirements for gravel or paving projects. I worked closely with enforcement branch to ensure trucks met the weight and safety requirements to be on the road. Overloaded trucks were not allowed.

The interesting comparison while working on the job was the rationale and excuses of the truckers trying to run overloaded were very similar to some of the rationale and excuses from folks on the forum.
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I have the same truck as Cummins12v98, and pull a 40RE Luxe (21,000GVWR). No problems handles great, with the caveat that I have not done the western mountains yet. Have no problems on 6% grades so far.
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I have the same truck as Cummins12v98, and pull a 40RE Luxe (21,000GVWR). No problems handles great, with the caveat that I have not done the western mountains yet. Have no problems on 6% grades so far.
You won't have any issues! 32K combined here, about 2K more than you with no problems at all!

Really nice they have made such a great towing machine right out of the box.
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My Ram loves to pull this 17.5K 5er. The pickup itself is a very refined vehicle, and very comfortable, but when the big 5er is attached it becomes a phenomenal tow vehicle. I love towing with it. Getting 11.5 mpg towing our Landmark. Over 13K towing this 5er over many, many mountain passes, with Zero issues. Here's the combo roadside on our way to the Adirondack park in NY.Attachment 106269
Nice setup!

You guys with the 2015 Ram DRWs and 4.10s...are those the 30k towing capacity?
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Nice setup!

You guys with the 2015 Ram DRWs and 4.10s...are those the 30k towing capacity?
Mine is rated at 29,010# trailer towing. The 2wd reg cab with Aisin is 30K.

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I've got the two wheel drive version, and we both have the BW hitch. Cummins 12v98, my Elite Suites (2006) towed an inch or so high in the front as yours (old one) did, the Luxe is dead level.
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Mine is rated at 29,010# trailer towing. The 2wd reg cab with Aisin is 30K.

Using the chart to pull a 29,010 trailer the vehicle weight would be a max of 8790 lbs (37,800 - 29,010) unless you exceed the GCWR. At 8790 the 3500 would be a very bare bones truck, and the driver would be a jockey.
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Using the chart to pull a 29,010 trailer the vehicle weight would be a max of 8790 lbs (37,800 - 29,010) unless you exceed the GCWR. At 8790 the 3500 would be a very bare bones truck, and the driver would be a jockey.
Charts are using base models in each configuration. My DRW with wife and I and 7/8 tank fuel no hitch or tool box 5,380 front, 3,634 rear total 9,014#. So take 37,800# GCWR remove truck weight 9,014# that leaves my truck SAE rated to tow 28,787# trailer. Still would need to remove hitch tools and toolbox so reality is 27,800# or so. Fact is I would never tow a 5er that heavy but would tow a flatbed gooseneck trailer full of cars that heavy.
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Just get a f-350. That's what we're going to pull our 42' Luxe with when we pick it up in January. It has exhaust brake also.
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I tow a 43 foot toy hauler with a 2015 F450, empty weight is about 16000, max around 20000. The F450 tows it very nice and if you're going with a Ford I'd get the F450 over the F350.

A friend/co-worker just bought a new F450 to tow his 5th wheel. He was using an F250 but it wasn't enough truck. Surprisingly the local dealers had several F450's to choose from.
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Reading the thread I find some of the responses quite interesting.

Many are suggesting the absolute minimum for towing citing "tows good", "never had a problem". Probably true if you can all agree on what good means or what is defined as a problem (how rough does it get before it becomes a problem?).

Now I wonder how many of them would be happy if you went to a bakery and ordered a dozen donuts and got 11? It is almost full measure. It should be good or not depending upon the size of the donuts. Right?

Having a tow vehicle that is clearly large enough without shaving the numbers is the best insurance you can get IMO. It is more likely to save you pain and suffering than insurance which may pay you adequately something (good enough) for your pain and suffering.
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Just get a f-350. That's what we're going to pull our 42' Luxe with when we pick it up in January. It has exhaust brake also.
Plan on adding air bags since your rear will be sitting LOW.
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