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Old 12-17-2015, 05:00 PM   #71
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I was wondering how long it would take youall.
Good job makes Fer good coversation
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:06 PM   #72
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[QUOTE=jimcumminsw;2865428]Would a 20 year old Dodge count? My son owns three diesel vehicles and I own two. He has a 1996, 2500 12V Dodge, a 2006, 2500 5.9L Dodge and a 2012 VW TDI Golf his work car. I have a 2008, 6.7L Dodge bough new in 07 now with 93,000 miles on the OD and a 2011 VW Jetta TDI my wife's car. These are our last two vehicles. I plan on running my 08 till the OD turn over 350,000 miles, I may sell it than. And the VW will last for 20 + years also.

The reason you cannot tell is that most 2nd gen trucks and 3rd gen trucks look very similar through their build years. My 08 looks just like my sons 06 truck except for the paint color, to any non-Dodge owner. Especially a ford guy because the truck doesn't scream supper duty all over the truck just to tell you it is a tough truck. And what is a Denali, isn't this a national park in AK?

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Yup AK named after a park where only the strongest will survive
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:56 PM   #73
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Just gimme an inline six diesel any day. 25% less crap to break !
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Old 12-18-2015, 08:21 AM   #74
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To start, change a front wheel bearing yet ? Or anything that the big three has decided to attach to the truck as a "assembly" vs a "part"....

Parts are so crammed on ...and this isn't my first RAM (and I have friends that have the other Big 2) that the labor charges way exceed the cost of the parts.. think of the ford diesel (cannot remember year/model) that has to have it cab pulled off to do some engine work..

and I can go on..

The bigger trucks are built tougher and are easier to work on..no assemblies..a bearing is a bearing..look at the rig I am pulling...do I need a mdt ?

However, what sold me was the visibility from the cab, absolute comfort of the seat and sitting position (I suffer from a sever back injury in an auto accident), maneuverability, range, the absolute ease hauling with equivalent fuel mileage and the ability to move up rig size if the DW wants to without me having to think about changing TVs.. ..and the initial cost of the truck vs the new RAM 3500 I wanted.

A MDT is not for everybody....but it fits with our lifestyle what we want to do in the future..
And what do the tires cost to replace? And what does the insurance cost? At one time I wanted a MDT, then I started looking at the price to purchase and operating cost... Its not for me nor my pocket book. You can say anything but I still see $$$$$ x 2.
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Our Volvo 610 cost about .18 cents per mile to operate. That's figuring fuel at $4.00 a gal. Included is oil changes, all maintenance items, budget for tires, brakes, windshield wipers etc.
We just replaced tires on out truck. Total cost was $1800 for 6 (we're single rear axle) for Yokohama's. Most truckers get between 75-100K mileage out of them before replacing. For us that will be 4+ years. 1 brake job will last 3-400,000 miles at the weights we carry. All the parts on an MDT-HDT are made to last hundreds of thousands of miles before needing service or replacement. I replaced an alternator last year, $300- 200,000-mile warranty.
We insure our Volvo thru Blue Sky, titled same as a motorhome in South Dakota. Both truck and RV are around $1500 a year, with the truck being our current daily driver. It would be less if wasn't our daily.
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Old 12-19-2015, 06:27 AM   #76
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And what do the tires cost to replace? And what does the insurance cost? At one time I wanted a MDT, then I started looking at the price to purchase and operating cost... Its not for me nor my pocket book. You can say anything but I still see $$$$$ x 2.
People used to have MDT's because the big 3's trucks could not handle some of the heavier 5er's. Now RAM for example is cable of some SAE backed bIG numbers and many are leaving the MDT world and going to RAM 3500's and Ford 450's.
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Old 12-20-2015, 10:08 PM   #77
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Our Volvo 610 cost about .18 cents per mile to operate. That's figuring fuel at $4.00 a gal. Included is oil changes, all maintenance items, budget for tires, brakes, windshield wipers etc.....
WOW!

What kind of fuel economy do you get?

Over the past 4 years my GMC Sierra 3500HD has cost .308 cents per mile for fuel only!

You might need to check your calculations.....
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WOW!

What kind of fuel economy do you get?

Over the past 4 years my GMC Sierra 3500HD has cost .308 cents per mile for fuel only!

You might need to check your calculations.....
Could be that "NEW" math.
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tNever did a cost per mile don't really care ,but a few misconceptions lately.
Maintaince has been close to wash after 4 years
-tires were double what my F250 cost but should last much longer.
- oil changes are $ 250 at speedco but are good for 40,000kms , also a wash
- brakes are the same as for my SD but are 'rest of my life ' now.
mileage is between 8 and 9.5 usually close to 9.
as far as the hero's that say 'cant even feel my 40'er behind my super pickup'
I call unbelievable , or else they are the most unobservant lout .
I can feel the trailer easily and it weighs the same as the truck.
The best and biggest saving is the next truck I don't have to buy - saving 60 to 70,000.
because its got another 800,000 kms of life easy.
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Ya caught me Skippy...
Should be .38 cents per mile at $4.00 a gallon. Lower fuel prices has made it cheaper to operate.
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All three are very capable towing machines. They are lacking in payload. My dually towed my 21k 5ther fine but bowed overload springs with 6k pin. Had to add air bags and rode like a sled. I now own an HDT.
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The overloads are exactly that and not to be loaded.
My F250 drove like on a buckboard when I loaded the overloads.
With 2 more spring plies it drives great loaded or unloaded.
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The overloads are exactly that and not to be loaded.
My F250 drove like on a buckboard when I loaded the overloads.
With 2 more spring plies it drives great loaded or unloaded.
Mine was a 3500.
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5,500# pin with 9,580# sitting on the rear tires. Factory rear air ride, adding another 500# would not be a problem. Rides and handles GREAT towing a combined load of 32,500# !

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