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Old 01-13-2019, 11:02 PM   #1
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Howdy all....!

About me.
Turning 66 in a few days, sorta retired....kinda.
Married to a wonderful woman of 30...er, sumtin years.
Her name is Denise.
We live on a island in the Pacific Northwest in the state of Washington.
Denise has a couple of years to go to fulfill her employment obligation, then we are really free, which is why I came here, to pick your brains

We both love the outdoors, and raised our 4 kids camping and such.
From tent, to tent trailer, we ALL loved it....
Now mom and I, and her two mini weenies want to hit the road again, and it seems the 5th wheel trailer is catching our fancy.

I think my first question, before I start down my list, is to narrow it...yes?

I have a 2011 Ford F-250 Super Duty FX4 Super Cab 6.1 gasser w/ automatic trans, 100,000 on the clock.
It has the "stuff" for towing, brakes, manual shift, or program shift (haven't done anything with it...I tow my 19 foot cuddie cabin, as is, no problem there).
It is the regular bed.

So, my FIRST question, what size trailer am I really able to pull?
I know the folk on the lots say...."ANY OF EM'...."
I know better.
Me, I am really hesitant about pulling anything this BIG, and I feel around 25' is my comfort zone.

I really appreciate any input/advice, doubly so from Denise

Here is a picture of my truck:
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:43 PM   #2
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The first piece of info we'll need is your door sticker that shows payload info. Also, we'll need to know your gear ratio and max tow rating. Keep in mind there are two parts to towing: carrying the weight (payload = pin weight of 5th wheel onto the truck + all the people and gear in the truck) and pulling the weight (this is where the gear ratio and max tow rating come into play).

Just guessing I'd say you would be good up to about an 8500# dry weight 5th wheel. This is making a lot of assumptions, though.
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The first piece of info we'll need is your door sticker that shows payload info. Also, we'll need to know your gear ratio and max tow rating. Keep in mind there are two parts to towing: carrying the weight (payload = pin weight of 5th wheel onto the truck + all the people and gear in the truck) and pulling the weight (this is where the gear ratio and max tow rating come into play).

Just guessing I'd say you would be good up to about an 8500# dry weight 5th wheel. This is making a lot of assumptions, though.
Hey, a brother to the south, thanks!

I copied this from the Ford site/brochure:

5TH-WHEEL TOWING — MAXIMUM LOADED TRAILER WEIGHT RATINGS (LBS.)
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION REGULAR CAB SUPERCAB CREW CAB

F-250 F-350 F-350 F-250 F-350 F-350 F-250 F-350 F-350 F-250 F-350 F-350 F-250 F-350 F-350 F-250 F-350 F-350 F-450
AXLE GCWR SRW SRW DRW SRW SRW DRW SRW SRW DRW SRW SRW DRW SRW SRW DRW SRW SRW DRW DRW
ENGINE RATIO (LBS.) 4x2 4x2 4x2 4x4 4x4 4x4 4x2 4x2 4x2 4x4 4x4 4x4 4x2 4x2 4x2 4x4 4x4 4x4 4x4
6.2L 2-valve 3.73 19,000 12,700 12,600 — 12,200 12,100 — 12,400 12,300 — 11,900 11,900 — 12,100 12,100 — 11,700 11,700 — —
FFV 19,500 — — 12,700 — — 12,200 — — 12,300 — — 11,800 — — 12,000 — — 11,600 —
4.30 22,000 15,700 15,600 — 15,200 15,100 — 15,400 15,300 — 14,900

and this:

MAXIMUM PAYLOAD WEIGHT RATINGS (LBS.)
REGULAR CAB SUPERCAB CREW CAB
MAX.
GVWR 137.0" 141.1" 158.0" 156.2" 172.4"
(LBS.) WB WB WB WB WB
F-250
SRW 4x2 9,800 4,080 — — — —
9,900 — 3,790 — — —
10,000 3,560 3,220 3,800 3,660 3,550
F-250
SRW 4x4 10,000 3,760 3,460 3,350 3,250 3,140
F-350
SRW 4x2 10,500 4,600 4,270 — — —
10,700 — — — 4,260 —
10,900 — — 4,590 — —
11,000 4,450 4,110 — — 4,430
11,400 — — — 4,350 —
11,500 — — 4,470 — 4,260
F-350
SRW 4x4 11,000 — — 4,230 — —
11,100 4,670 4,430 — — —
11,200 — — — — 4,220
11,300 — — — 4,420 —
11,500 4,500 4,180 4,040 3,990 3,770
F-350
DRW 4x2 13,300 7,070 — 6,640 — 6,400
F-350
DRW 4x4 13,300 6,580 — 6,190 — 5,970
F-450
DRW 4x4 13,300 — — — — 5,200
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My Rockwood would work, altho it's 32'.....
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Of course you can pull anything but can you stop it.
If you are looking in the 25' range your truck should be fine. Now this is just my opinion. However, (that is a big word) you did not say if you were just camping of going full time. I'm guessing camping. When I got my first 5er it was billed as built for towing with a 1/2 ton. I went to an F-150 with a 7700 pound package (it was a heavy 1/2) and towed my Gulfstream Mako 27' for 9 years with no problems but we were flatlanders and in the midwest all that time.
I'm sure others will have other things to add. I have moved up a bit as you can see from my picture.


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Since it's only you and the DW and her weenies, a smaller fifth wheel should work fine for you UNLESS you plan to fulltime. You should be able to tow and stop either of these models. Your payload may get you before the weight or length gets you. Be sure to pay attention to that.

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Oh sorry, yeah, it will be camping/traveling, maybe 2 weeks at a time, not full time stuff.

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Your F-250 is really better suited to tow a nice travel trailer. Look at the Winnebago Mini Plus 27 RBDS to get an example. There are a lot of other manufacturers that build a like floor plan. Grand Design and Rockwood. You are out west, I would look at Artic Fox, Lance, and Outdoor RV are the best.

I am moving from a 5th wheel that made me nervous towing it under low hanging tree branches, and cable/electric lines to a travel trailer. The F-250 is perfect for towing a travel trailer with 2 slides.

F-350's are better for towing 5th wheels.
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