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Old 06-13-2011, 04:42 PM   #29
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You guys are making this confusing and it's not. Cat has an inverter/charger, I have the same coach and same equipment (Magna Sine 2012). The charger is a just charger, it's only function is to charge the batteries, it does not convert AC to 12v to run any 12v equipment. The inverter is an inverter, it changes 12v to AC to power certain AC appliances. These newer rigs have apparently done away with converters, maybe due to so much 12v power available in the six batteries. We have had a couple of pull behind trailers, they each had one 12v deep cycle battery and a charger/converter. They needed the converter to power all the 12v appliances because it only had one battery, it's not necessary in these coaches.

Targaboat, if anybody is "unknowledgeable" and "confused," it's you partner, the rest of us have broken the code.
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Anyone who makes an issue that there is a difference between inverters and converters can not define the difference between the two except one can produce more DC amperage. Ok, then when does a converter become a charger?

One battery in an auto will put out a couple of hundred amps during cranking and that is plenty of power to run anything in any RV that uses 12v. So all you are really arguing about is that, as far I am aware, one company has decided to call their battery maintainer a charger. You know nothing about the technical difference and that is not being knowledgeable.
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Old 06-15-2011, 01:30 PM   #31
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Anyone who makes an issue that there is a difference between inverters and converters can not define the difference between the two except one can produce more DC amperage. Ok, then when does a converter become a charger?

One battery in an auto will put out a couple of hundred amps during cranking and that is plenty of power to run anything in any RV that uses 12v. So all you are really arguing about is that, as far I am aware, one company has decided to call their battery maintainer a charger. You know nothing about the technical difference and that is not being knowledgeable.
First paragraph: I already defined what inverters do and what converters do, it's in my other post. The above comment makes no sense at all.

Second paragraph: This comment, like most of your previous comments, does not compute. You certainly know nothing about what I know and don't know, however, we know from your posts that you like to come across as an authority, but actually know very little and refuse to acknowledge when others have stated the facts.
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Old 06-15-2011, 06:04 PM   #32
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Hoover, No, I am not an authority on much of anything anymore. My only points it to use the correct terms relative to technological issues. However, I am sure that who every read any these missiles will not be confused by using the terms charger and converter interchangeably. Have yourself a cold one.
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Have yourself a cold one.
Wilco...you too.
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:40 AM   #34
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:58 AM   #35
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The correct name for the box must be a converter. The problem all along is that I do not have nor can I find on the world wide web an owners manual for this trailer. I am shooting blind when it comes to trouble shooting and just having the correct knowledge on how to operate this trailer. Thanks for the help so far.
It would be good if you took a photo of what you do have and get a model number. Most of us would have come across it.
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Good one HandyBob! Well said!
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I went back and re-read the original post.. I will say this:

1: I do not know if he has an inverter/converter or straight converter, Many posts up thread answer.. But thaat was not his question

He had two questions: I will take them in REVERSE order

First (To answer) Does a battery need to be installed: IF you are talking about a trailer with electric brakes YES a battery MUST be installed it is, in fact, the LAW.. Why? Because the break-a-way feature of the brakes, which brings the trailer to one screeching stop should it come free of the tow vehicle, Needs that battery and needs it charged in order to engage the brakes.. Else, Depends on your converter but likely not.

Second: is it normal for it to sound like it is coming on and off?

NO, IN fact the converter, or inverter, shoudl run 100% silent.. HOWEVER.... There is a moving part.. Yes PART (singular) and that does make noise. It is a cooling fan.

Thermostatically controlled it will come on and off as needed.
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How did that darn charger get into the thread.
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I don't know.. Unless it's because many Inverters are also converter/chargers.

I know my comments apply to Inverters, Converters, and "Dual function" units like my Prosine.
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