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Old 12-03-2014, 08:53 PM   #1
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Is a tripod worth buying?

Bought our first 5er in May. I have noticed many rigs with a tripod under the front. Do they help stabilize it, or help support the nose?
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:05 PM   #2
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YES - makes a substantial difference the stability of our 5er. I tighten it to take some weight and that is sufficient to steady it up.

If you dont mind a bit of squiggle when someone is moving about I would not get one. It is a nuisance to find someplace to haul it that does not get in the way. I carry it in the back of the truck but then have to move the leveling and landing blocks.
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Old 12-03-2014, 09:07 PM   #3
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Bought our first 5er in May. I have noticed many rigs with a tripod under the front. Do they help stabilize it, or help support the nose?
We used a kingpin stabilizer (what you're calling a tripod) with our first 5er, a 1989 40-foot Teton. It made a difference in that we didn't have a sensation of motion in the front of the rig when parked. We were satisfied with it.
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Old 12-03-2014, 10:25 PM   #4
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I have noticed some people using the tripod, but I have never felt the need for one.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:08 AM   #5
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Have used one for my 5ver for the last 10 years.....never a problem.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:08 AM   #6
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We used one with our first 5er, but no longer use one. Doesn't seem to make too much difference.
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Old 12-04-2014, 07:18 AM   #7
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We use these:

JT's Strong Arm Jack Stabilizers - For Fifth Wheels Long Style


JT's Strong Arm Jack Stabilizers - For Fifth Wheels Long Style

They work great and there are no storage issues.
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When someone is walking around inside the 5er it will bounce/wiggle. Rubber tires will bounce, suspension systems are made to bounce. To eliminate the bouncing/wiggling you need to keep the weight from pushing down on the tires and suspension by making sure your stabilizers are tight between the 5er and the ground. Don’t just let them out far enough to touch the ground, turn the crank more to make sure they are tight so they will not allow the 5er to push down on the tires. Use a bipod/tripod under the king pin. Make sure it is tight between the ground and the king pin, don’t just adjust it till it touches, tighten it so the front overhang will not move. Make sure to check the stabilizers and bipod/tripod every couple of days because they will loosen up over time. Doesn’t make sense spending a lot of money on landing jack stabilizers when the landing jacks are stable and don’t bounce up and down. If you have properly adjusted the stabilizers and bipod/tripod then you shouldn’t have any bouncing/wiggling. This has worked for me over the past 15 years.
Chocks are to keep the 5er from rolling forward or backwards. They do not eliminate the weight of the 5er from pushing down and causing the bouncing/wiggling. If you park on a site that has a incline/decline then you probably want to use chocks to keep your 5er from rolling when you unhitch.
There are a lot of other options out there to “eliminate” the bouncing/wiggling if you have the extra money and want to spend it.
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We use these:

JT's Strong Arm Jack Stabilizers - For Fifth Wheels Long Style


JT's Strong Arm Jack Stabilizers - For Fifth Wheels Long Style

They work great and there are no storage issues.
I made a set similar to these. I had a two legged pin support and it helped, but the landing gear stabilizers are a vast improvement.
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JT's Strong Arm Jack Stabilizers - For Fifth Wheels Long Style

They work great and there are no storage issues.
I use the SteadyFast stabilizers and they are far superior to the tripod that I had tried previously. Easier to set up (tighten 2 handles), take down (loosen 2 handles), much more stable than the tripod and no storage issues as they are a permanent installation to the landing gear.
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If you have a standard king pin then they will help. If you have a MorRyde type then they won't help.


We use some DIY JT type strong arms. It's nice because they're permanently mounted to the 5er. No taking down putting away getting back out stuff.


What I found out about common movement is this. There is 2 types.
1st is the bounce. That's the up and down movement from the springs and tires flexing. To alleviate that try putting the rear stabs down and then raise the front to compress them a bit more.


2nd is side to side wiggle. This is from the landing gear and tire sidewall flexing. That's why I recommend going with front and rear bracing.
I found that by just tightening up the front JT's that the rear will still wiggle. As an experiment I tightened the front and walked to the rear of the 5er and pushed sideways on the corner. You can still move the rear of the 5er. It moves because the tires are flexing on the side wall. With a tripod you will still get the rear flexing. That's why I added a single diagonal rear brace that goes from the frame to one stab jack. I get almost zero wiggle or bounce when set up on pavement. Dirt/gravel it's get 85% wiggle free.



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If you have a standard king pin then they will help. If you have a MorRyde type then they won't help.


We use some DIY JT type strong arms. It's nice because they're permanently mounted to the 5er. No taking down putting away getting back out stuff.


What I found out about common movement is this. There is 2 types.
1st is the bounce. That's the up and down movement from the springs and tires flexing. To alleviate that try putting the rear stabs down and then raise the front to compress them a bit more.


2nd is side to side wiggle. This is from the landing gear and tire sidewall flexing. That's why I recommend going with front and rear bracing.
I found that by just tightening up the front JT's that the rear will still wiggle. As an experiment I tightened the front and walked to the rear of the 5er and pushed sideways on the corner. You can still move the rear of the 5er. It moves because the tires are flexing on the side wall. With a tripod you will still get the rear flexing. That's why I added a single diagonal rear brace that goes from the frame to one stab jack. I get almost zero wiggle or bounce when set up on pavement. Dirt/gravel it's get 85% wiggle free.

Good info! I have the BAL strong arms on the front (great help!) but get the wiggle in the back as you described. I think I will get another for the rear!

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1+to adding landing gear and rear stabilizers. I have the tripod as well but my 40' unit stays at the lake all year. Tripod made no differance, but the stabilizers made a world of differance. If your towing the unit forget the Tri. And go with stabilizers as a "Must Have"... No storage issues and worth the $$$. If the unit s going to a campground to stay then I would consider the pin tripod.
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By the by, if anyone is in the Denver area, I have a bi-pod (tripod with two legs) that I will not be using any longer since the strongarms are in place and I would be happy to pass it on - gratis.

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