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Old 02-24-2005, 03:21 PM   #1
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My dad has a 2004 Cardinal 29WB that has had problems with the side
storage doors leaking since he has had it. He has had both doors
replaced, had a new hinge (designed differently from the ones he had)
put on. This slowed the leaks down, however we believe that we have
found the source of the rest of the leaks - the cam locks! I have
been in the "basement" of the trailer while he has been spraying
water on the doors and have seen water running down the tabs that
lock the door. The water pools up on the inside ledge and then runs
down into the storage compartment. We have replace the cam locks,
but it seems as if two of them are still "leaking". In looking at
the locks that we have taken off, one can see where the water has
run down the inside of the lock to the locking tab, runs down the
locking tab to the inside ledge and then down. It seems as if the
water is getting between the part that turns and the "fixed" part on
the outside, running through the inside and then out the back. Again
only leaks in a blowing rain that is coming at that side. If the
rain is not blowing or coming at that side there are no leaks. We
had a 3.5 inch rain night before last and not a leak. Last night it
only rained .25 inches, but was blowing at that side, and it leaked.

The servicing dealer has been great and very patient in dealing with
this problem. We thought we had it all fixed until the last rain (it
has to be a blowing rain) when we found the leaks under the two
locks. My question is, has anyone else had this problem and if so
how did they solve it? The dealer said that this is a first for them
in having the locking mechanisms leak like these seem to. The dealer
said they would put new locks on again, but I told them I wanted to
check with the "brains" first and get some more suggestions. The
locks are both the ones the key fits in and the "tab" locks.
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Old 02-24-2005, 03:21 PM   #2
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My dad has a 2004 Cardinal 29WB that has had problems with the side
storage doors leaking since he has had it. He has had both doors
replaced, had a new hinge (designed differently from the ones he had)
put on. This slowed the leaks down, however we believe that we have
found the source of the rest of the leaks - the cam locks! I have
been in the "basement" of the trailer while he has been spraying
water on the doors and have seen water running down the tabs that
lock the door. The water pools up on the inside ledge and then runs
down into the storage compartment. We have replace the cam locks,
but it seems as if two of them are still "leaking". In looking at
the locks that we have taken off, one can see where the water has
run down the inside of the lock to the locking tab, runs down the
locking tab to the inside ledge and then down. It seems as if the
water is getting between the part that turns and the "fixed" part on
the outside, running through the inside and then out the back. Again
only leaks in a blowing rain that is coming at that side. If the
rain is not blowing or coming at that side there are no leaks. We
had a 3.5 inch rain night before last and not a leak. Last night it
only rained .25 inches, but was blowing at that side, and it leaked.

The servicing dealer has been great and very patient in dealing with
this problem. We thought we had it all fixed until the last rain (it
has to be a blowing rain) when we found the leaks under the two
locks. My question is, has anyone else had this problem and if so
how did they solve it? The dealer said that this is a first for them
in having the locking mechanisms leak like these seem to. The dealer
said they would put new locks on again, but I told them I wanted to
check with the "brains" first and get some more suggestions. The
locks are both the ones the key fits in and the "tab" locks.
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:17 PM   #3
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Did you put a sealant around the lock and under the rim of the locks as they were installed? I have a small, toothpaste tube size, of clear sealant purchased at local hardware store that has worked well around the trailer, no name, it's in the rig under 2' of snow, but I'm sure you can find something that might help.
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Yes we caulked under and around the locks as we put them in. Where I see the water coming is between the inside part of the lock that turns the tab that locks the door and the outside "casing". (I hope that made sense.)
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Old 02-24-2005, 06:18 PM   #5
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This is a "stop-Gap" fix-it solution, not a permanent repair.

"TAPE" ..... why not put a small piece of tape over the locks ?

While you can use any type of tape, I would suggest using "electricians" tape and not the infamous Duct Tape as Duct Tape can leave a residue on the surface of the doors. Electricians tape will not.

Electricians tape comes in a variety of colors other than black.. including the color "White"..

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Old 02-24-2005, 06:42 PM   #6
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I've seen the same problem on my Forst River Wildcat. I first noticed it when I opened the side hatches and water dripped out of the back-side of the locks. It appears that the water wicks its way into the lock mechanism between the fixed outer barrel of the lock and the rotating inner cylinder of the lock.

I haven't done anything to correct it yet. I'm not even sure anything can be done since these locks are pretty cheap and probably don't have any type of water seal between the barrel and the cylinder.

Maybe packing the gap with silicone grease would create enough of a water seal to prevent the wicking effect?
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Old 02-24-2005, 06:48 PM   #7
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Yes, that is exactly what is happening! I just didn't know how to "put" it.
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.....remember that a "box" moving threw the air will form a vacuum inside and water is sure to follow.....properly vent your storage boxes so there is a dry air flowing in and out.... and you won't suck any thing in-dirt or water.......geof kaye
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Many of these type locks have a little metal tab that blocks the key slot and is pushed aside when the key goes in. Do you have them on your locks and are they sliding back into place when the key is removed?
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Camping world has cam locks that are supposed to be wether resistant. I replaced all my thumb locks with them and have not had one leak yet.
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:14 AM   #11
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Yes the "key" cams have that metal "door" that covers the hole. However the thumb cambs also leak. My dad does not have to be pulling the trailer in the rain for the leak to happen. The only time we have noticed it happening is when the rain is blowing (and the trailer was just sitting).
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by John Harrelson:
This is a "stop-Gap" fix-it solution, not a permanent repair.

"TAPE" ..... why not put a small piece of tape over the locks ?

While you can use any type of tape, I would suggest using "electricians" tape and not the infamous Duct Tape as Duct Tape can leave a residue on the surface of the doors. Electricians tape will not.

Electricians tape comes in a variety of colors other than black.. including the color "White"..

Best wishes,
John </div></BLOCKQUOTE>



I know this is a little off base of the orginal problem but I have a little tip that is a little helpfull. WD 40 will take tape residue, paint over spray tar and a multitude of other things off of the surface of anything made of plastic or fiberglass. It works great. I even used it to take of undercoating over spray. I hope this helps.
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:49 AM   #13
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We did solve the problem. We purchased some cam locks from Southco. They are made to meet certain criteria when it comes to water. No more leaks! We have told serveral people about this who had problems with storage doors leaking, thinking it was from the seals or from the hinge or around the locks, but have not solved the problem. Upon putting new cam locks (made by Southco) in, it solved their leaks. I'm sure there are other manufacturers out there that produce cam locks with the same specifications, but Southco is the one we "ran" upon.
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