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Old 03-11-2014, 03:47 PM   #1
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leveling 5th wheel

I notice other rigs on the road and the trailer rides level . Ours seems to be lower in front.
we are pulling a 29 ft 5th wheel with a 3/4ton diesel 1996 Ford pu. It has towing package and was used to tow a 30 ft travel trailer with no problem. When lowering the 5th wheel on to the truck it does tend to lower the truck.

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You've more weight on the bed than you had on the old hitch w/old TT, OR it's just a geometry issue. The 5er should be level and your truck should be also. 5th wheel hitches are adjustable as are pin boxes. If your truck isn't down at the rear, raise your hitch. If your truck isn't carrying the load level, you can redistribute weight in the 5er, add helper springs or air bags to the truck.
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:07 PM   #3
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x2 too much weight in the front of trailer tv should only drop about 2 inches
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:00 PM   #4
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how much the truck drops depends on the pickup. Loading of the 5er can play a part too. It is easy to overload the front of a 5er when the bedroom is in the front. But I'd lean more towards the truck. I have had 4 different trucks with different results. Three trucks with the same trailer. Example: I had an F-250 with a small 5er and it dropped to being level. I had a GMC 3500 dually with a larger trailer and it sat level with the 5er on it. Then I got an F-350 Dually and the same trailer made it sag in the back. I added air bags to keep it level. Now I'm into an F-450 with the same trailer and it sits nice an level.

The 5er should sit as level as possible. If your truck is sitting level but the 5er is lower in the nose, you may have to adjust the height of the hitch to raise the nose of the 5er. The important thing is that you maintain 6" clearance between the bed rails and the 5er.
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Old 03-11-2014, 05:49 PM   #5
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I have always setup my unit to be level when hitching.
It drops a bit when loaded on the truck, been doing it for 22 years that way.
Sure makes it easy to set up.
Sometimes I never take the truck of the unit for weeks. When traveling I usually park a bit uphill in WM parking lots. Works for us.
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Old 08-29-2015, 09:32 AM   #6
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How do I correct the issue if the front of the 5er is high and I have nose at 6inches off bedrail ? What is the best way to bring back end of 5er up to level with the truck ? Click image for larger version

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May have to flip your axles, or add a sub frame between the axles and trailer frame.
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Since lowering the truck is not an option, the trailer has to be raised. As mentioned above, a subframe between frame and spring hangers is probably best way, but placing the axles UNDER the springs will also raise the trailer. A competent axle/spring shop should be able to do it either way.
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Didn't mean to hijack the thread but axles are under springs already.
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Whoops, lost track the the pics weren't from the OP.
mbbcop,
Being as the axles are under the springs already, then a subframe is the only way I can see to raise the trailer. 2x2 sq tubing, or even 2x3, should make the difference. Simple addon for a spring/axle shop.
I really did not expect the trailer to already have the flipped axles looking at the stance.
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