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Old 07-28-2013, 04:54 PM   #1
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2013 Montana high country 343rl5th wheel. Have a deposit on it but not full payment yet?
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I do it too. Think I am all set, make a deposit on something only to rethink it and wonder if I have done the right thing. If you are not sure then see if you can get the deposit back. If you can't and are willing to walk away you have answered your own question.

I have looked at a few Montana 5th wheels. They all have the same problem for me. Look real pretty on the show lot but after a few years they don't hold up too well. That's why they build so many all the time.

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We also looked real hard at a Montana but ended up going with a Landmark by Heartland instead. Montana looked pretty on the inside but I was not as happy with the construction and the biggest reason we went with Landmark was they have a 2+5 warranty versus the Montana 1 year. Based on experience with our current 5'er that extra year really comes in handy.
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We have been in a new 3725RL for almost a month, quality is about the same as others in its price range however I'm not super impressed with quality of ANY fiver I have looked at.

I liked the Montana frame welds and overall I liked the Montana more than the Heartland's we looked at and Palomino wasn't even close. Redwood interiors seemed to be higher quality however if Landmark has that much better of a warranty it's worth another look.

As for longevity the Montana's of 2013 with the fulltime package are supposed to be built better, we'll see.
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If you are having ANY misgivings, go with your gut and bail. Every RV, whether new or used, will have things that need to be fixed or upgraded. Most of those things are small, but sometimes they can be very costly especially if there's no warranty.
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We have a 2012 343RL Montana HC. We have lived in this 5er for about 5 months total in the year we have owned the 343RL. Mostly we have been happy but some things have happened:
* The satellite coax from entry to the main TV went astray. Instead of taking in for warranty I opted to just put in another coax input near the TV - but could have had Keystone look for the problem.
* The Norcold 2100 went out and was replaced under warranty - but a pain for sure when it was so new. But, that is a Norcold issue and not a Keystone I suppose.

Other than this we really enjoy the floor plan and it pulls wonderfully with my Ford F250 Diesel. There are many things we like about the trailer but there is one issue that has me concerned:

** The axles. I really believe they are too lightweight for the job. The 2013 specs have been changed on Keystone web page - now the axles are "OK." They are 5200 Dexter axles. Well, the Federal regulations state that the total of the axles allowance and the pin weight but not be less than the GVWR. My 2012 missed that mark for sure and I have running battle with Keystone. So far they have stated to me my factory sticker with GVWR was incorrect and they are sending me "corrected" stickers - which does not stand up very well. My yellow "Federal" stick states that my unit weighed 10,040 lbs (have 2 air, etc.) and allowance for 2400 lbs cargo. So, that comes to a GVWR of 12,440 and the Keystone sticker (different from the Federal sticker) states a GVWR of 12,500. Keystone web page still states pin weight is 1720 pounds. So, do the math and I think the axles should have been 8 lug 6000 lbs instead of 5200 6 lug. And it is interesting that Dexter tells me there is about $40 difference in the two and about 30 pounds of weight difference!!

Overall, we are happy and just hope the trailer holds up to good use.

Oh, one last thing: get some good tires instead of the "China Bombs" Keystone uses. We had a blow out and did some damage and replaced all tires with some good truck tires. You will find lots of discussions on various forums about tires.
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And I forgot: The decals on the front cap started peeling off a few months after we purchased the unit - not unusual for Keystone I think. They have agreed to send me new decals and I expect them in UPS this week. I will probably just hold on to them for awhile. But I wanted it addressed before the 1 year warranty expired (it has now a few days ago).
I did purchase a 7 year extended warranty so hope that is a good plan - time will tell.

If the 343RL had 6000 lb axles I would recommend in a minute. The desk area is really nice. The unit feels very stable and the kitchen layout and living area and bathroom all were what we wanted. We are not full timers but do plan to live in this trailer for many months out of the year. And we wanted something that can be safely pulled with a 3/4 ton.

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We have been in a new 3725RL for almost a month, quality is about the same as others in its price range however I'm not super impressed with quality of ANY fiver I have looked at.
Then I suspect you didn't look at Excel, Arctic Fox or NuWa HitchHikers. They cost a little more, but the quality is much better.

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We looked at a 5th wheel by accident last week, not that we are in the market.
All it said on the side was "Tradition by Design". It was 38 foot with a center kitchen. Looked like it was at least a mid level quality rig. Any info?

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