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Old 09-13-2016, 09:46 AM   #15
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if your coach is a basement model, it will be ok. just keep heat on all the time.
a few carefully placed 75 watt regular light bulbs in the basement will help.
if there is room. a small ceramic heater set on low setting near the water lines will help prevent freezing
always be aware of fire hazards when placing the bulbs or heaters..
if the park allows, buy a couple of 90 lb cylinders. the same changeover valve and regulator you use for two 30 lb tanks will work the same.
ive traveled for over 47 years in all kinds of weather, from 25 below in wyoming to 125 in gila bend az. ive learned the hard way how to protect my water supply.
not always succesfully.
if you dont have a basement, thats going to be a real problem.
you are not going to be able to protect anything against freezing without a well sealed and well insulated skirt. a heat source like a ceramic heater inside the skirt will help. just hope for a mild winter.
try to keep out of the wind. wind will suck heat out faster than you can add it. try to get a spot at the bottom of the hill, or between two other coaches. anything to block the wind.
if you are staying in it during the cold weather, an electric blanket will be a life saver. YOURS. the wife will be very unhappy if shes cold. i know from experience.
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Depending on where you are staying, I've seen guys just stack hay bales around and underneath. If just temporary, cheap, and resaleable.
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I was wondering, how does the oil filled compare to the little 1500 w portable electric heater?
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I was wondering, how does the oil filled compare to the little 1500 w portable electric heater?

I believe the oil filled are safer. Because it has so much surface area, the fins never get hot enough to catch even tissue paper on fire. Also because it's heavy, it is stable and not easily knocked over. There is no fan to make noise or break. There is no red glow from hot elements. Dust won't really effect it either. They usually also have 3 heat settings, 600 watts, 900 watts, and 1500 watts. You can run it on the 900 watt setting and not stress your wiring as much....many times RV outlets are not designed for continuous 1500 watt usage without causing excessive heat or even melting of the cheap outlets.
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I believe the oil filled are safer. Because it has so much surface area, the fins never get hot enough to catch even tissue paper on fire. Also because it's heavy, it is stable and not easily knocked over. There is no fan to make noise or break. There is no red glow from hot elements. Dust won't really effect it either. They usually also have 3 heat settings, 600 watts, 900 watts, and 1500 watts. You can run it on the 900 watt setting and not stress your wiring as much....many times RV outlets are not designed for continuous 1500 watt usage without causing excessive heat or even melting of the cheap outlets.

What do you with it when traveling? By that I mean how/ where do you stow it. They have wheels, and are kinda heavy. I would also think they must be kept vertical.
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What do you with it when traveling? By that I mean how/ where do you stow it. They have wheels, and are kinda heavy. I would also think they must be kept vertical.

Stand it up in basement between other items. They do provide more even heat with out the noise. I would check but I think they can be laid down for travel if you're just moving between spots.


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This is a great heater and works very well. We have one and use it frequently. However we only use it for overnight and not for constant use (weeks or more). It is quiet and you will only hear an occasional ping when initially warming up as the metal expands.

Downside is it is a radiant heater and the majority of the heat rises. It could use a fan to distribute the heat at a lower level. We have a ceiling fan in the 5er which helped to send the heat to the floor.

We also have a ceramic heater with thermostat. It works exceptionally well as it is compact, has a fan and is very quiet - well there is a fan! It has tip over shutoff.

Between the two we have kept warm in the 5er at 25 degrees without the furnace running. This was overnight on our way south for snow birding. Once south we used infrequently for the few days when the temperature was uncomfortably cool.

Note: This combination would be impractical the way we used it for long stays in freezing conditions as the water system would be in peril. You need to use the furnace to warm the belly and tank areas.
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Depending on where you are staying, I've seen guys just stack hay bales around and underneath. If just temporary, cheap, and resaleable.

Great idea, but you're better off using straw bales instead of hay bales. Straw won't soak up water, and when the cold season ends, you can donate them to the campground for landscaping projects! Just make sure your campground will allow it before you purchase them.
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....... I actually plan to full time in the thing without moving for awhile. ...
If 'awhile' is a couple of years or more, you might be better off buying a small cabin. After a couple of years you'll most likely have a better equity position as well as having lived more comfortably in a structure designed for the climate of the area.
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Great idea, but you're better off using straw bales instead of hay bales. Straw won't soak up water, and when the cold season ends, you can donate them to the campground for landscaping projects! Just make sure your campground will allow it before you purchase them.
The fire department generally has fits when straw or hay bales are used a skirting. All they see is a flammable material that only requires a heat source like a cigarette butt.
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The fire department generally has fits when straw or hay bales are used a skirting. All they see is a flammable material that only requires a heat source like a cigarette butt.
Actually Straw Bales are classified as Combustible, not Flammable. If that is a big concern, you can use a garden sprayer to spray them with a solution of borax and water. After they dry, put them in a large garbage bag and tie to prevent rain from washing off the borax.

By all means run it by the local fire department for piece of mind, but clear it with the campground as well.
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As others have stated, it depends on the RV. Generally, two 30lb tanks will probably get used up in 2-3 days in avg. 30 degree temps which is what we experienced in a 38' FR Wildcat FW, a typical mid-level priced FW. It did have a heated basement but not a lot of basement under the rear so the floors would get cool. We've never used the Montana, a "4 season" FW, in any cold weather so I can't state that it would be better than the Wildcat. If you're going to winter over, it would be advisable to look into skirting and hay bales, and lease a large propane tank so that you won't have to lug 30lb bottles around.
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Actually Straw Bales are classified as Combustible, not Flammable. If that is a big concern, you can use a garden sprayer to spray them with a solution of borax and water. After they dry, put them in a large garbage bag and tie to prevent rain from washing off the borax.

By all means run it by the local fire department for piece of mind, but clear it with the campground as well.
Sorry - should have known better as our son is a fire fighter but I have not been turned on to the terminology. For me anything that burns easily has been/is flammable. Going to try to remember combustible. Thanks
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