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Old 12-12-2012, 06:28 AM   #1
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Looking for a Light Weight 5th Wheel

I'm in the market for a new 8000-8500lb 29-30' 5th wheel. We,ve looked at a Rockwood, poor quality. Cougar HC, too expensive. Cruiser, just an "ok" trailer. We want to look at a Crusader 29rlt and 29rst, also an Outback/Sydney 295rl. Does any have any experience with any of these or would recommend another? Looking for rear living or rear entertainment.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:07 AM   #2
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I'm in the market for a new 8000-8500lb 29-30' 5th wheel. ...also an Outback/Sydney 295rl.
If your definition of "8000-8500" is shipping weight, there are several available, including the Keystone Outback Sidney 295FRL. But that puppy has a GVWR of 9,500 and you can expect it to weigh over 9,000 on the road. Also the model number indicates it's about 29.5' to 30' inside length, but it's 33' tip to tail.

Keystone also makes the Cougar X-Lite that is similar but slightly heavier at 10,000 pounds GVWR.

Realize that you're talking a mid-profile trailer, or maybe even a low-profile trailer, when trying to keep the shipping weight with two or three slides less than 8,500 while keeping the interior length around 29'.
http://www.keystonerv.com/media/598744/295FRL.jpg

Mid-profile means about 5' from floor to ceiling in the front bedroom. Low profile means about 4' from floor to ceiling in the front bedroom. My wife insisted we trade our low-profile 5er for a mid-profile so she wouldn't have to crawl around to make the bed.

Full profile means most adults can walk around in the front bedroom without stooping. But those puppies drag a lot more air and require more than a 12' high barn door to get them out of the weather. Since my barn door was 12' high, I stayed with my mid-profile Keystone Sprinter for over 10 years. Darling Daughter is now living in it full time in the Austin area.
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Old 12-12-2012, 10:01 AM   #3
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We have a Puma by Palomino rv. Ours is the 259 rbss. Lite weight, big tanks, great quality and not expensive.
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Check out KZ Durango. They have opposing slide models that really open up the living area. If the Durango models are too heavy (it will be close) check out the KZ Sportsman models. I like the S265RE model with opposing slides in the living area. KZ builds a better than average 5er.
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Just purchase a brand new 2013, 29,5 fts Cruiser by CrossRoads and we love it, very well built and only 7,300 pounds
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:30 PM   #6
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I am looking for the same type of 5th wheel, short, reasonable price, and comfortable. One thing I would add to the must haves is being able to walk through the kitchen while on the road without opening the slide. It doesn't have to have much room, just enough to get through the kitchen and to the bathroom. I am having a hard time deciding what to get because, I guess I am picky, love traveling, but not made of money. I am not sure that I care for a split bathroom with the shower out in the open, such as the Durango 275rl. However, it does have the 2 year warranty and windows either side of the chairs. I have a 12 year old Jayco and have considered Jayco's 265rls, but it is over 12' high. Right now, I am leaning towards the Sabre Silhouette 250rfld (height unknown). Can anyone tell me about this brand? I think you can buy a second year warranty on this one. My family toured the Crossroads Crusader factory and weren't impressed, especially after the aluminum frame cracked when the guide went to pick it up, or the way they were pulling the wiring through the rough edged wood. I may have to go on more tours, but after visiting 3 companies we decided that it appears visitors only get to see top of the line rv's being built.

When you decide on one, I'd like to know what you get and what decided it for you.
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Keystone has several floor plans that have access to the bathroom with the slides closed. They also have ALUMINUM frames on a lot of the models from 2011 up. That is when the weights became such a competition point between manufacturers.
Be aware of your tow vehicle height. The new Chevy, Ford, and Dodge trucks need a high profile to be tall enough to have clearance between the camper and the bed. I have seen several mid profiles that have had their axles flipped and worse to get them tall enough to hook up to these new tall trucks.
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Helpful tip... I put together a spreadsheet of all the trailers I've seen on the Internet that fit my needs, weight... Length... Price. In other columns I put the difference in features, front bed orientation, kitchen counter space, rear setup. After I got them all in there we filtered down to the setup we want, and of course came up with a Rockwood 8289WS which we didn't like the quality, at all.

Anyway, I personally own a crossroads travel trailer, my in-laws own a cruiser 5th wheel and I'm a little shocked about the issue you stated. We are very happy with our trailers quality.

My brother-inlaw is looking too, more what you're looking for. He has looked through the Sabre's and loved them.

I am hoping to look through a Durango and Crusader this weekend. I looked at a KZ travel trailer when I was shopping 2 years ago and was NOT impressed. I felt like I could step through the floor. So I'm anxious to see there 5th wheel line. What I have seen from the Crusaders on the internet has been awesome. I have looked at the Rockwood, you know how I feel about that. Take a look at Sundance XLT, Sunet Trail (crossroads product but a lot for your money), Outback (seems very nice) and Chaparral Lite.
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I was worried about the delamination problems some are having. Mine is the aluminum siding. It's holding up great for a 09. Good luck with your trailer hunt. It took me almost a year to find the Puma that had all the features needed. Give palomino puma a look. It's a great trailer. Get some pics of what ever you get. Mine has the bathroom in the back that you can get to with the slide in.
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When slide is close the only thing that I don't have access with my Cruiser is the TV, no big deal !!!
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What version is your Cruiser and what's the shipping weight?
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I'm in the market for a new 8000-8500lb 29-30' 5th wheel. We,ve looked at a Rockwood, poor quality. Cougar HC, too expensive. Cruiser, just an "ok" trailer. We want to look at a Crusader 29rlt and 29rst, also an Outback/Sydney 295rl. Does any have any experience with any of these or would recommend another? Looking for rear living or rear entertainment.
We have a 10 36ft Sydney. Outback. Weights 10,200 dry; probably 12k loaded. While this is perhaps larger and heavier than you want, wanted you to know we are very pleased with the Outback quality and features. Opposing slides in livng area is great. Nice layout with island kit and rear lounge. Interior cherry color. Warm feeling with fireplace. Tows like a dream. After 12,000 miles , not a single problem...so far. Even tire wear; slides working fine. No appliance problems. Good tankage. We also installed a Splendide washer/dryer in the bedroom closet. Never a problem and wife loves it. Cons: decals are lifting along edges. Not painted, just fiberglass, so keeping finish good will take a lot of work & wax. Insulation isn't for much. At 90+ the AC can barely keep up. Spare tire was mounted too low and hit road a few times. I raised it. Under storage seems limited compared to others I have seen. It is 12.4 in height. Good access to kitchen and bath when closed. Think you would be pleased with the 295rl Outback.
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What version is your Cruiser and what's the shipping weight?
A 2013 CF27RLX Dry Weight 7277 lbs Lenght 29,5 ft
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We have the 2012 CF27RLX cruizer by crossroads. Love it, floor plan works for three large adults , can get to the fridge/bathroom with the slide in. Dry weight is 7,255 pounds by the " weighed by" sticker in the cabinet door
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