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Old 11-29-2012, 04:39 PM   #1
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New to RV's and Going Fulltime! Please Advise!

Hello, The title says it all. Next summer/fall my DW and I along with our two dogs will start full timing. I am looking at 5th wheels right now. I have researching and learning about this lifestyle and was looking for some advise on a few thing. I will be pretty much stationary for 1-2 years in the rv with most of the time in the DFW area of east Texas. That being said I know I need one with good insulation and two a/c units to handle the Texas 100+ heat in the summers. I also need to spend no more than $30k on the 5th wheel. Any suggestions? I would like new so that its under warranty but I would be willing to go a few years old as well. Also, I plan on being hooded up at a family residence or business location that I own, any issues with this? I figure I can have an electric company get me the right plug in for a 50amp unit(not even considering 30amp) and then I can hook right into the city sewer. Anyone ever tried this? I would appreciate all the advice I can get.
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:22 PM   #2
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Thumbs up Getting into full timing RVing

Hi, my wife and I starting full timing in 2009. We learned a few things right from the start. We only move twice a year as the cost for gas or diesel is high. Our first 5th wheel was 32' long and was a 2000 model with 2 slides. Our current 5th wheel is a 2006 37' long with 4 slides. We sure like the extra room. We have hooked up stationary for several months and we learned to leave the grey tank and our galley tank open all the time but leave your black tank closed and only open it when you dump. We learned this the hard way. Some folks will leave their grey tanks closed and use the water in them to flush the sewer hose when they are done with the black tank. We just use our wand to clean the hose when we are done. If you have not looked at 5th wheel trailer yet but have a pickup, size the trailer to what you have to pull it. Too many trailers out there way overweight and not enough truck to pull or stop it. We really enjoy living in our 5 wheel full time and have learned things are only things and we don't need all the things we had in the house. A plus is we are better friends ( 37' is all the space you have to get away from each other. We also volunteer at different parts of the country for state parks or federal agencies. We see great country and have made great friends over the years. Good luck on your travels
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:44 PM   #3
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Thanks for the advise. I am looking at atleast two slides but 3 or more I think is ideal. Also I will be towing with a 3/4ton silverado crew cab V8. But like you mentioned I wont be moving it very much at all. What brand do have now?
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Old 11-30-2012, 04:25 AM   #4
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I checked to back ad section of Trailer Life Mag. There are a lot of mid level used units that around that 30K limit. Mid level units only have 1 AC but some have 3 slides. These units would not be great to full-time with but probably would be ok parked for 1 or 2 years. To get a good full-time unit you will need to look at 2008 or older. The best looking 5th wheel for the $$$ in the TL ads is a 2008 Heartland Big Country 3250TS for $27k ...just for an example.
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Check this site out along with RVtrader. Be cautious and watch for scammers out there that want you to send deposit monies.

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You will have a difficult time finding what you want without going back to the 2008 ish range. However, that is not a bad thing. Many people will advise you, including myself, not to buy new. The quality of work coming out of the assembly lines today really sucks. You end up spending a lot of time getting warranty work done to make it right. Good used units have the bugs, leaks, and other headache stuff worked out.

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Good luck and look closely at your needs In some rv's TWO ac's are not enough here in Texus !

It's not as much of a concern to get a used rv as it used to be... A lot of brand NEW units have issues too !

take some of the money you save and buy a well researched extended warranty and road side assistance policy from someone like coachnet or good sam (if you are not into learning how to repair it yourself )

Consider renting to find out what you really want - amazing how your "needs" change once you start living in one ! More room - more slides - more smiles good luck and glad to help in anyway we can...

Oh, and one more thing --- Severely jealous !!!!
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I never thought about used being better because of the bugs being worked out, I was just thinking it would wear out quicker. Definitely something to think about.

Would this statement be true?

Since I am going to be stationary here in Texas, wouldn't things like double pane windows, insulation and underbelly insulation, 2 a/c, & 50amp power be the biggest things to make sure I have? Am I missing something else? Since I wont be moving and it will be on jacks I don't think the frame will be an issue, plus I will have plenty of storage at any location I am at. I will also only use it in the evening and nighttime. I think another key is making sure the 5th wheel is properly maintained and not abused. I guess this is the biggest issue I have with getting a Nu-wa, excel, or Mobile Suite besides their price and weight is the fact that it wont be moving which is where the biggest difference comes in? Just thinking out loud, am I way off base?
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Contact RV Sales in Moriarity NM. The have a great selection of used Excels and others with the options you will need. Great folks, great service. The worst abuse a coach gets is when being lived in full time. Make sure your choice is desinged and approved for full timing. Good Luck and welcome!
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Hi....We have been fulltiming in our 2005 Cardinal for nearly 2 yrs. we are camphost.The last 2 summers in Kansas have been really hot 2011-53 days 100 plus,2012-37 100 plus.We have a 35' 3 slides 2 ac's and we kept inside temp. 75-80 on the 100 plus days and were comfortable.
I would also get 3 or more slides you will not be disappointed with the extra space.

If you have not take a look at Ebay and Craigslist lots of nice used 5th wheels there. Good luck on your search.
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Hi again. We have a 2007 Chevy 2500 HD with a 8.1 gas extended cab, long bed, with a six speed Allison trans. We installed air bags on the truck to help keep the truck level when hooked up. Ours is a 4x4 but looking back we really didn't need the 4 wheel drive. We ordered it with a 4:10 rear end to give us more pulling power. When we compared the towing capacity in the book our pickup with the engine and rear end ratio will handle 22,000 lbs total weight ( both truck and trailer). The only caution we take is not to overload the rear axle on the truck by having too much weight on pin. In the state of Oregon you can pull over scales that are closed as they have an outside led read out to show you your weights. We do this every time we go into Oregon just to check. Good luck on your search for the right RV.
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If you intend to go full time, you want what is referred to as a four season coach. They are not cheap new. RV's depreciate pretty fast. You will do much better only looking at true full time units that are about 4 to 6 years old. Yes on slides - - get at least three. Full time and being comfortable, you want a minimum of 34', preferably 36'. I highly recommend only getting an aluminum wall framed unit rather han the bonded walls - - much more durable, easily repaired, more versatile. All your high end units are frame. A good unit will mean it is heavy. Heavy means enough truck carrying capacity to handle the load. I would recommend a 1 ton diesel. You will get far better mileage, longer life, better pulling and typically fewer repairs, better resale value and I feel be much happier with it in the long run. Remember, this is full time - - you don't want to be trading stuff every couple years.

There are some good used units to start looking at such as Excel, Carriage, Newmar. Don't be in a hurry - - go to shows - - see what floor plan you like the best. Also highly recommend do not get a rear kitchen. Good luck in your new lifestyle.

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Bob, why do you say to stay away from rear kitchens?
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Bob, why do you say to stay away from rear kitchens?
Depending on the TV the salt will not stay in the shacker. Things get trown around in the back. The trailer needs to load the truck for it to ride smooth in the rear.
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Bob, why do you say to stay away from rear kitchens?
The previous answer was a pretty good one. The smoothest ride in the rig is normally in the center. Breakables and loose stuff you don't want thrown around are in the galley. I only had one Class C that had an "almost" rear kitchen - - we were not happy at all with it plus we had to sit in there and listen to stuff banging in the cabinets and drawers. We had broken dishes and glasses and one time a drawer flying open.

Another good reason for no rear galley is one of the beauties off the fiver - - the view out the rear window in a really nice campsite. I specifically look for the sites with the best view out the rear window and the galley back there blocks all that. Anyhow, JMHO.

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