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Old 12-11-2009, 11:00 PM   #29
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We're glad you're back. I think you can easily tow pop up's,many hybrid TT's & even several fully enclosed TT's. IMO, I would stay under 6000 GVWR for the TT, just to be on the safe side. With that said, I'll throw out some mfr's website for you to surf:

Aerolite. Our first TT was an Aerolite. Pretty decent for an entry level rv.
Chalet & TaB. I just think these are just too cute! (couldn't spell the name with the @, the hyperlink wouldn't work)
Forest River. Look at the micro lites, tent campers, expandables.
Heartland. Check out the Edge.
Jayco. Look at the Jayfeathers. Jayco has an excellent reputation.
Keystone. Bullet & Passport. Our 5-r was a Keystone. We really liked it.
Trail Lite. Crossover, Max Sport, Trail Sport.

There are so many out there for you to choose from. Have fun shopping & let us know if you have more questions.


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Old 12-12-2009, 07:44 AM   #30
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I had the exact set up you are talking about, a Tundra and a Trail Bay 27DS. We loved the Tundra, it was a hotrod and lots of power. We loved the layout of the TB and the fact it had a separate bedroom. It is a fiberglass trailer, I dont understand your statement about it being aluminum. As far as hauling the trailer the Tundra had no problems pulling the trailer. The only issue we had was wind. We live in Texas and it is always windy here. We had a very good setup and am very experienced at hauling TT's. But anytime it got windy pullling the TB I had to slow down alot cause it was white knuckle time. Trucks passing on the Interstate were also fun. The only thing I can think of is the length was just too much for the truck. Also remember the water tank is under the rear bed right on the rear bumper, so when you fill the tank and it was setup while empty, it will throw everything off. Have since traded both for a 5er and diesel.
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Above is a quote from TT & 5th Wheel Towing Issues & Vehicles by Steelpony555. This is exactly the kind of experince I have had with some of my previous TV/TT combos. Some not that bad. That's why I say more TV is better (more rubber on the road, more weight, more size equals better control).


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I will be the first to agree with the you can't have too much truck idea. However that is because most of us are playing catch up with the RV we tow. I know that has been the case for me for many years. My first lash up was an S10 with a V6 towing a 1965 15' Kit - I did not know anything about weights or towing - I believed the 5000lb tow rating and later found out the truck had a 3.08 rear end - oops that explained why my first tow over the mountains was so bad. I later put a set of 3.73 gears in the back and things were better. My second TT was a 20' Komfort Lite bought new in 1986 - it tipped the scales around 3800lbs. The same S10 towed it OK - however headwinds and hills were still problems. In 89 I bought an Astro Van with the 4.6L V6 and full trailering gear from the factory - what a difference - the Komfort felt like it was not back there. I then traded in the Komfort on a 21' Trail Lite which scaled out closer to 4000 lbs the Astro was getting older and it pulled the new TT OK but it was time for a new rig - enter a new 99 Tahoe 4x4 with a 5.7L V8 - I never knew the old Trail Lite was back there. In 2005 I bought a new Arctic Fox 22H tipping the scales at 5600 lbs - and putting the Tahoe at its max GCWR of 12,000 lbs. In 07 I bought a new 2500HD with full trailering equip including 4.10 rear gears - once again I hardly know the AF is back there and consider myself ready for the next larger TT. As for your rig, I would not look at 5th wheels as the pin wt will easily max out what little payload capacity you have (I est between 1000 and 1200 lbs at best). Your best bet is to find a liteweight TT in the 20' catagory - A quick formula I use to test the towability of a combination is to add the GVWRs together and see if it is less than the CGWR of the tow vehicle. ie your truck has a CGWR of 11,000 lbs - this is the absolute most your combination can weigh so if you subtract the GVWR of the truck from that (most 1/2Tons are around 7000 lbs) that leaves 4000 lbs for the GVWR of your trailer - DO not use the dry weight of the TT or the Tow Ratings of the Truck. I would also look at investing in a set (or two) of 3.73 gear sets I really think your towing performance will improve. These newer GM engines are designed to make both torque and HP well into the 4000 rpm range - in fact the torque peaks at 4400. My new truck has the 6.0l and 6spd tranny - it walks right up just about any hill at 55 in 4th with the tach at 3800 - and loves it.

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