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Old 08-22-2014, 01:40 PM   #1
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My husband and I are new 5th wheel owners. Just retired and will not be towing it too much, just up and down 400 miles of interstate in the summers. We have a 40' and need advice on what type of truck can pull our little one weighing in at 17,500lbs. Help!!

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Someone versed in trucks and such will come along I am sure, in the meantime wanted to say hello. The search feature is a big help in finding information as well.

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Old 08-22-2014, 01:59 PM   #3
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It will take a one ton Dooley. Now gas or diesel is your choice.
I would think gas would do. Or if you are just taking it to the park and
bringing it home, I would look into a service to transport it! Less $$$$$!
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Hi folks! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the crew here!

Congrats on the new 5er! Maybe one of the Moderators will move your post over to the Towing & Tow Vehicles area.

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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Welcome to the Forum and we hope you have many great camping adventures. I am sure someone will be able to give you a suggestion on the truck. Best of luck.

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I agree you will need at least a 1 ton dually. Brand is up to you. If you are considering a diesel and a Ford, you may want to consider an F-450. That'll give you room to spare and it is the same size as an F-350.
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Old 08-23-2014, 11:08 AM   #9
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Howdy and welcome. FYI I have a 12,000 # 5er and a 3500 '07 Chevy Duramax dually. It is rated to tow up to 14,000 and carry 4,000 #. Your unit is way over that. My truck is called a "one ton" but it will carry more. I'd be worried about your ability to stop more than tow. I'd go with a medium duty truck for your coach. That's a lot of weight to stop and you need larger brakes. Look in the MDT section of this site and see what you can learn.
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Welcome to the forum.
For towing a 40' 17,500# 5th wheel you don't want to consider anything less than a 1 ton dually. Our trailer has similar specs, it is not so much the tow ratings that are the problem but the payload of the truck. We have w/d, 6 heavy batteries, genny in the front and extra fuel and tools in the truck bed that brings us within 700# of the trucks GVWR which is 14,000#.
Also, if you plan on pulling the trailer through hilly terrain you need a Diesel.
You might be able to find a good used truck at a decent price but make sure you know the pinweight of the loaded trailer and the weight of everything riding on/in the truck before you hand over the check.
Important weights to know are truck front axle weight rating, truck rear axle weight rating, truck GVWR, truck tow rating, trailer front and rear axle weight ratings and GCWR (Gross Combined Weight Rating).
Please don't listen to the folks that try to tell you a SRW truck is all you need. If you have any more questions keep asking, that what this forum is for
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Glad to have you here with us.

If you are only going to take it up and down the road once a year I would look into a service that can tow it there for you. It will be cheaper and most likely safer.

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Old 09-17-2014, 05:12 AM   #13
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I to am a newbie My wife and I purchased a 2013 Ford F350 dually 1st. We are now ready to purchase our 5th wheel 43 footer. Hope to retire in 2015 when the 5th is paid for. I have pulled TT but never a 5th. Any suggestions?, should I get a trainer? A little apprehensive. Thanks in advance.
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Howdy and welcome. FYI I have a 12,000 # 5er and a 3500 '07 Chevy Duramax dually. It is rated to tow up to 14,000 and carry 4,000 #. Your unit is way over that. My truck is called a "one ton" but it will carry more. I'd be worried about your ability to stop more than tow. I'd go with a medium duty truck for your coach. That's a lot of weight to stop and you need larger brakes. Look in the MDT section of this site and see what you can learn.
New f350 srw are rated higher than that and I would think all makes are fairly close to the Ford (probably on the lower side). and trailers have brakes also, not to mention if you get diesel they all have engine or transmission brakes that work quite well. My trailer is only a little over half that weight and my 13 f350 6.7l doesn't even know it's towing. I also traveled through the mountains from ND to Las Vegas, Phoenix, San Diego and back and I never once even had to touch my brakes in the mountains with 9000 pounds pushing me down the hill, set the cruise and the trans break held the speed steady. I was very impressed.

I'd only go diesel personally, even for lighter trailers, costs more but well worth it. Gas isn't rated high enough either. I'm sure it would do it just fine but it wouldn't be fun and the diesel transmission brake will be your friend at that much weight. According to the 13 model year towing guide single rear wheel diesel crew cab 4x4 is 15,900. Single cab 4x2 is 16,800. I'd go with crew cab 4x4 every time. The dual rear wheel diesel crew cab 4x4 f350 is 22800, single cab 4x3 is 23900. the f450 is 24,700 and the gas dually is only 15,000. The newer 14s and 15s are probably even higher, I know the 15 got a little more HP, but it wasn't lacking in the first place. I put a tuner on mine and cameros are looking at my tail lights wondering what just happened, haha!

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