Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > 5th Wheel Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-01-2013, 04:17 PM   #1
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 45
Newmar Kountry Aire (very cold Weather)

Hi

I am new to the forum and I have found lots of useful info. However I would like some input if I could. I have a Newmar Kountry Aire Fifth Wheel 39rkwb. I am probably headed for Minnesota to work for the winter. I have seen some cold weather here in north central arkansas. But nothing like it will see in Minnesota. It of course has dual furnaces and heated underbelly. Holding tanks are covered and insulated. All the usual kountry aire stuff. I have a dehumidifier. My question is will it be a struggle to keep warm in that extreme cold. In 20's degree weather with teens at nite it only uses a 40lb bottle every 10 days. Is there anything I will need to do. I have a heated water hose. Sewer hose is taken care of. Am i missing anythng. Any ideas or thoughts welcome
__________________

__________________
dynacopas is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-01-2013, 05:14 PM   #2
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 2,456
Get a few small electric heaters. One should heat the bedroom. We use two in the main living section during a cold day.

Also an electric blanket will allow you to sleep w/o cold air gerting to you.

You have a very good 5th wheel to try this with. It will be interesting to hear thru the winter to see how you are hanging in there.

Good luck
__________________

__________________
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2013, 06:45 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,232
I second Tuff. I don't see you needing to do anything extra. If you do use electric heaters, just don't overload your wiring.
__________________
jesilvas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2013, 09:24 PM   #4
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wherever the Suites is
Posts: 2,982
The trailer will handle it, you will just have to make sure your electric supply isn't going to shut off and you have to depend on propane only. But you can get a horizontal rental tank and work off that.
Get some nice space heaters (Vornado or Lasko) and use them for most heating (you WILL have 50 amp, right?) and use the furnace for backup most of the time. For the water, heat tape and insulation done right will work to 20 below most of the time--assuming the electricity stays on. Make sure the sewer hose is a staight shot downhill to the connection so there are no low spots.
If you lose electricity for a good while, then you better have a full propane tank and good batteries.
Sounds like an adventure, hopefully the really cold spells will be few and short.
Joe
__________________
'15 38RSSA Mobile Suites
'05 36TK3 Mobile Suites--retired but not forgotten
'17 F450--trying one more Ford
'09 F450--died, replaced with '10--retired
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-01-2013, 09:40 PM   #5
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,232
Something I thought about, keep the furnace on to keep the underbelly heated.
__________________
jesilvas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 04:11 AM   #6
Member
 
12 Tires's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 84
We have spent much time im MN in the winter.

If you are going to be stationary, many folks enclose the entire area under the fifth wheel-- underbelly to the ground, using foam board. I have seen several people also enclose under the neck area. It make your heating considerably more efficient.
__________________
12 Tires is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 09:07 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
wingnut60's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Wherever the Suites is
Posts: 2,982
Excellent suggestion.
__________________
'15 38RSSA Mobile Suites
'05 36TK3 Mobile Suites--retired but not forgotten
'17 F450--trying one more Ford
'09 F450--died, replaced with '10--retired
wingnut60 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 10:29 AM   #8
Moderator Emeritus
 
K-Star's Avatar


 
Texas Boomers Club
Mid Atlantic Campers
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Fulltime - Currently somewhere in the lower 48
Posts: 2,215
I spent a winter in PA (granted not as cold as MN). I enclosed the underside of the 5er. I found a shop that made vinyl awnings. He came out, measured and made skirting that fit all around the 5er. Unless you have heated tanks, I would caution the overuse of electric heaters. If you are relying on the heated underbelly to keep the tanks warm remember that area is only heated when the furnace is running. The less the furnace runs, the less heat down there. I contacted a local propane dealer and rented a 100 gallon tank. they installer rigged up the connection so that it used a fitting like that on the 30# tank. He fed it up into the LPG cabinet and connected to one of the propane hoses off one tank. We set the changover valve for the 100# tank as the primary. I left the other 30# tank as a backup. I also made up a heated water hose (using aluminum foil, heat wire and foam pipe insulation) and made a sewer connection using PVC pipe.

Newmar makes a well insulated coach so we were comfortable all winter. I timed it once and the furnace would run for about 7-10 minutes, shut off for 2 or 3 minutes then run again. I said a prayer each night that the furnace would still be running in the morning.
__________________
John, Joyce & Zoie the Terrier. - Fulltime since `08

2017 Solitude by Grand Design
2012 Ford F-450 Lariat
K-Star is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2013, 09:21 PM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 45
Thanks for all the insight. I didn't really think anything was really needed for the extreme cold. Basically wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything. This rig is better insulated then my carriage carri-lite electric bills are less in the summer time for sure. To me that says insulation.
__________________
dynacopas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 07:08 PM   #10
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 84
Quote:
Originally Posted by jesilvas View Post
Something I thought about, keep the furnace on to keep the underbelly heated.
What you can do is to run the fan in the furance to force warm air from the interior to the tanks. The electric heaters will provide heat, you only need to move it around. Set the furnace to fun on fan only. Of course you will have to control it but cheaper than using propane.
__________________
Steve & Trudy
Swamplands of Louisiana
Laissez les bons temps rouler!!!!
Swamp Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2013, 08:31 PM   #11
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,232
Quote:
Originally Posted by Swamp Man View Post
What you can do is to run the fan in the furance to force warm air from the interior to the tanks. The electric heaters will provide heat, you only need to move it around. Set the furnace to fun on fan only. Of course you will have to control it but cheaper than using propane.
I've never seen a furnace with a fan only option.
__________________
jesilvas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2013, 01:19 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
tuffr2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Palm Coast Florida
Posts: 2,456
Humm - I have 'Fan Only' on my thermostat control panel for my furnace. I always wondered how that would be used.

So next time I am in real cold weather (by mistake) I will try this as we heat most of the time with electric heaters. I will check to see if semi warm air is blowing into the basement area. It it is...thanks. I learn something new now and then.
__________________
tuffr2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2013, 08:33 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,232
Quote:
Originally Posted by tuffr2 View Post
Humm - I have 'Fan Only' on my thermostat control panel for my furnace. I always wondered how that would be used.

So next time I am in real cold weather (by mistake) I will try this as we heat most of the time with electric heaters. I will check to see if semi warm air is blowing into the basement area. It it is...thanks. I learn something new now and then.
What t-stat is that?
__________________
jesilvas is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2013, 06:15 AM   #14
Junior Member
 
Larmolljr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 22
Send a message via AIM to Larmolljr
I have a Kountry Star with a fan only on the t-stat but it is for the AC only no furnace.
__________________

__________________
Larmolljr. 2001 F350, 7.3 Banks, Bully Dog. 2000 Newmar, Kountry Star 31. Retired Ford Engineer.
Larmolljr is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cold weather, newmar



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.