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Old 01-09-2014, 11:25 AM   #1
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Nothing but problems with Curt slider hitch

As you can see in my signature I do not actually have a fifth wheel. I'm posting this for someone who is not able to post for himself. (I'm not a stranger to fifth wheels. We towed a Montana 2955 for over 8 years.)

He's towing a 34" Heartland with a 2003 Ford F250 PSD.

Originally he was sold a marginally adequate Curt slider hitch, probably an e16. It would fail to lock about 80% of the time and failed even more often when trying to un-hitch.

With the advice of an 'expert' that was replaced that with a Q20 and he was promised that it was a much sturdier design and he would not have any problems.

WRONG! Every time we go somewhere it takes anywhere from 15 minutes to a couple of hours to get the flakey thing to un-hitch. Last trip required a blood donation on my part to pry the jaws apart. The Q20 is less than 3 months old and lives under a solid bed cover when not in use so it's unlikely to be a luibrication issue. In fact it was difficult to deal with first time out but I assumed it was because of the off level spot. That assumption proved wrong as well.

I've been over the manual several times and I'm sure we're doing everything exactly as documented.

At a net cost of almost $3,000 for the original hitch & the 'upgrade' (so far) my buddy is not a happy camper.

Does anybody else have problems with Curt hitches? Is there a way to make what appears to have been designed by Rube Goldberg work reliably?

My suggestion to replace the whole kluge with a Reese or Husky was deemed less than helpful.
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Old 01-09-2014, 01:39 PM   #2
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Does he have the "teflon lube disc" on his trailer part of the hitch? If so, take it off and see if that helps. I think there are different thicknesses available for this specific problem.
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Maybe another less-than-helpful thought--has he taken it back to the selling dealer to show them? Has he contacted Curt?

If there was a general problem with them, we prob would have heard more about it.

Many time unhitching problems are cause by 1) forward/rearward pull by the trailer on the pin; 2) pin not in neutral weight bias--no weight on truck, or no upward pull by hitch. And if he is forcing it to hitch with the incorrect teflon plate (mentioned above) then it would probably be hard to unhitch.
Interesting...
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Does he have the "teflon lube disc" on his trailer part of the hitch? If so, take it off and see if that helps. I think there are different thicknesses available for this specific problem.
i feel the same but really one more thing to look at


is the pin installed right on the 5er

giving this is the 2ed hitch and its still doing it i would to see if the pin was installed at the right level in the RV its self

may the Rv was in a small crash and the pin was pulled out of the RV / still to where you cant see any thing wrong but could have a small twist

so i would have a good look at the RV more then the hitch at this time
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Old 01-09-2014, 04:04 PM   #5
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As noted by others on the things to check, I must say the only time I have had a problem was the pressure on the hitch (foe/aft) and if I move the truck just a bit it will unhitch with no other problem. That's over 2 years of use with my Q20 .
I would say talk to the folks at Curt. They will help you.
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This thread is a bit stale, but yesterday I was talking to Howard at Hitch Corner Here in Littleton and mentioned this thread and Curt hitches (he sells them, too) and he said that a call to tech support at Curt would resolve that problem in short order. He said it is a set-up problem and easy to correct.

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Old 01-25-2014, 09:41 AM   #7
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Been a interesting thread as we are looking at replacing our 10 year old Husky 16K with a Curt Q24 Hitch.

We fulltime and travel quite a bit and the Husky is starting to show some wear and rust so been looking at replacing / upgrading.
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Do not see anything above 16K on B&W site !!!
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:38 PM   #11
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Do not see anything above 16K on B&W site !!!
I have a B&W. Nice set up , real solid.

http://www.turnoverball.com/products/rvhitch
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Do not see anything above 16K on B&W site !!!
The B&W 5th wheel hitches shown on the link in post #11 range from 16K to 22K in capacity.

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Yes, there are 5 hitches:
16k for rail mount
20k post mount (Companion)
18k slider post mount
20k puck mount for Ford factory holes
20k for flatbed mount
I am on my 2nd B&W Companion--ruined the first one by failing to tighten the leg mounts when I moved the height, not a fault of the hitch. Replaced with new one, it is doing fine at 3 years.
And, yes, unhitching can sometimes be a problem when I have weight from the trailer pulling/pushing on the hitch. All I have to do is release the brake on the truck for some movement and the hitch releases fine--again, not a fault of the hitch.
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On the B&W hitch, the jaws may not open when you move the handle to the "open" position if they are side loaded (pin is too high or low) or loaded fore/aft. Even though the jaws are closed, go ahead and pull out as long as the handle is pinned in the open position, and the jaws will open as you pull out of the hitch. That has never failed to work for me, and it says so right on the B&W website:

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(Customer testimonial):
Easy to install and remove, only issue to to make sure weight is off hitch or the jaws will not release. Well made unit.
Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.

(Note from B&W):
We take pride in our cam-action jaw design. The jaws will release even in tough situations like you described. When you park your trailer and open the hitch handle, the jaws may not open. That is normal. If they do not open, go ahead and pull away from the trailer. Even with the weight and the jaws closed they will open as you pull away. Thank you for mentioning this Terry. We now have a video explaining more about this. Check under the videos tab.
By the way, B&W has just released a Companion hitch for the 2013/2014 Ram trucks with factory gooseneck/5th wheel prep. As you might expect, it's very similar to the Ford factory prep hitch except with a different subframe to fit the Ram puck spacing. See HERE.

wingnut60, I believe if you look closely, the flatbed mount is 22K capacity.

I'm still using the B&W Companion hitch I purchased for a previous truck in September 2001 and have never had a problem with it. As the Brits would say, "It's quality kit!!"

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