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Old 09-19-2012, 05:51 PM   #1
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Open range

I'm leaning toward an Open Range. I like the Roamer and Open Range models, really would love to get a Residential but that may be a bit much for our first fifth wheel. I know my next stop is the Open Range forum but wondering if anyone has any thoughts, opinions or experiences they would like to share.
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Old 09-19-2012, 06:45 PM   #2
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Great looking rig, seeing more and more...if near Middlebury, IN., swing by their plant...
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First 5'er?
I would consider how I was going to use it and then look at the frame and axles / tires. A weekender / 2 week type wouldn't need the frame / supension that a rig used 3 or more months a year would have.

Floor plan is key. Forget the glitz. Look at the structure, insulation ratings of the floor, walls and roof. Double pane windows are almost a necessity.

I usually build a spreadsheet to try to get apples to apples comparison.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:37 PM   #4
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I would consider how I was going to use it and then look at the frame and axles / tires. A weekender / 2 week type wouldn't need the frame / supension that a rig used 3 or more months a year would have.

Floor plan is key. Forget the glitz. Look at the structure, insulation ratings of the floor, walls and roof. Double pane windows are almost a necessity.

I usually build a spreadsheet to try to get apples to apples comparison.

John has some excellent suggestions. Since you didn't mention what length you're looking at or size of your truck, you need to pay attention to the weight ratings of both before making a decision. When I first started RV'ing I bought a new '07 2500 Dodge Cummins and found the I should have purchased a 3500. Most units we were interested in were too heavy for my truck so I had to go to a smaller unit to be on the safe side. Our first 5er was a 32' Big Horn, but because we were out for months at a time, it got small, fast. We bought a 38' Montana High Country when they came out int 2011. It's a bit of a challange to back in a park space, but it's lighter and falls safely within the tow capacity of the truck. Don't know much about the Open Range, but see a lot of them on the road. Good looking unit with the grey exterior. Same as is the High County. An exhaust brake on your truck is a must. Don't buy anything with tires made in China and check your pressures daily. Tire presure sensors are a good idea. Two A/C units are probably a must on anything over 32' unless you spend your time at the beach. Good luck
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Friends just bought Open Range. The tires are G rated made in China but they try to entice you by saying they are nitrogen filled. Big whoop for that as any tire can be N filled and that is not a big sell feature. They had them replace tires from their current 5er they were trading in with ones on the OR as they had just recently gotten them. So far they seem pleased with OR.
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We bought a Dodge Ram 3500 dually Desiel. Hubby says we can pretty much tow anything with that. And since my original post we went "shopping" again. The new finalist are Redwood and Landmark. We found a perfect Redwood with all the bells and whistles we want on the lot! The sales guy also said to give him a heads up and he would arrange for them to have power so we could hang out in them before final decision.
As to how we are going to use it......next year the plan is one week a month. After that we will increase our RV time as hubby's (I retired last year)vacation time will allow. Within the next 5 years we will be spending months at a time. Some of these trips may include my Dad or a grandchild or two and my 3 small dogs.
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We bought a Dodge Ram 3500 dually Desiel. Hubby says we can pretty much tow anything with that.....
famous last quotes of many an overweight 5th wheel combo

you will be learning new terms shortly...
gvwr
gcwr
gawr
etc, etc,

look at your particular trucks specs - bet the rear axle weight rating will be the limiting factor.... but good luck !

friends of ours out a mill creek in canton bought a heartland and the redwoods are pretty!
the one thing on our "we wish we had list", is getting self leveling jacks!
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Visit the Heartland Owners forum, you'll be impressed with the HL family.
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Dawn, why did you like the Redwood? My wfe and I are also considering the Redwood (36FB) and we're getting mixed feedback on the construction. Plus, noticed you are in Grapevine. What dealer are you looking at for the Redwood. We're working with Explore USA in Fort Worth. Appreciate any feedback
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I would look at the Heartland Landmark. Outstanding customer service and as Travel Tiger said, the owners forum is a great resource.
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I agree that you should look at and consider Heartland. We purchased a Heartland and couldn't be happier.
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We stayed at Mill creek in Canton, Tx (wife is a first Monday shopping freak with her friends ) one weekend and the regional 'trainer' for redwood was staying next to us in a new redwood... wife loved it too....

he was training the rv dealer near canton, tx techs ...

so we HAD to look at them at both the ft worth exlporer usa and the mesquite rv dealer ,,,
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FWIW, on our Alaska caravan last summer, one full-timing couple had an Open Range TT, and another couple with a different caravan had an Open Range 5er. Both couples complained their RV was literally falling apart during the trip. They patched their trailers together enough to get back to the lower 48, then headed for the mfgrs. facilities for repairs under warranty.
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We had a 2009 337RLS Open Range. We loved the layout and the size of it. It pulled very poorly behind our 2003 Dodge Ram 4x4. It bounced harder than my 2003 Cedar Creek 39' RDQS (or something like that). I had to put air bags on for the CC but with the Open Range, it hit bottom too much.

The insulation is supposed to be so great, but I poured through tanks of propane at just 35 degrees. We had trouble with water leaks - all of the windows had to be resealed, the slide seals leaked when water puddled on the roof of the slide (I fixed that - Open Range had no clue). The roof panel popped up and had to be redone. The rear axle bent and had to be replaced. We had lots of trouble with the slides. First, the seals would get damaged for no apparent reason. The side seals would pull out, the bottom seals failed. They sent materials for repairing all of the bottom seals and side seals, but right after they were replaced, they failed again. In one case it was some screws out of place, but mostly just poor design.

Then the rollers on the slides rolled the coating off the bottom of the slide which they tried to fix with tape. The tape just rolled up so finally they gave me some pieces of sheet metal to put under there. Worked great, but all of a sudden the slide's cable started to fray - no problem with them for five years then suddenly right after I installed the sheetmetal 40 mile round trip and a perfectly good cable is nearly worn off. Then I noticed that there were cracks in the frame rails on each side (four total). I was out of warranty but pretty upset so I talked to the support guys. They were pretty unhelpful. They had poured a lot of money into trying to straighten this coach out and I didn't even ask them to fix some of the problems (fixed them myself), like door latches, leveling legs, unstable when parked (it wobbled all over the place).

I took the fifth wheel to a local dealer, told him the problems, and traded it for a 33 ft motorhome - man what a difference. You can have the 5ers - I am going with motorhome - yes, I miss my big 4x4, but I now have a 2009 Jeep Liberty 4x4 with the sky-slider for a toad and a nice 2-slide 2004 gasser (takes some getting used to after my diesel, but I like the purr of the V8) with less than 20000 miles on it.
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