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Old 09-01-2012, 05:46 PM   #1
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forest river 36ckts custom where are tanks located 2013 get in 4 days.looking mostly for fresh water.to reduse pin weight.
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Old 09-02-2012, 03:08 PM   #2
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From your two posts, I suspect you bought too much trailer for your tow vehicle, and now you're trying to figure out how to not have to invest in a more suitable tow vehicle.

Your Cedar Creek 36CKTS has a GVWR of 15,402, and you should count on it grossing at least 15,000 when wet and loaded on the road for your third RV trip. Pin weight is probably going to be 17 to 20 percent of gross trailer weight, or 2,550 to 3,000 pounds, regardless of where the fresh water tank is located.

So if your tow vehicle doesn't have at least 2,550 pounds of unused payload capacity for hitch weight, you're probably going to be overloaded. If buying a new tow vehicle, I'd get one that has at least 3,000 pounds of unused payload capacity when wet and loaded for the road, including passengers, pets, toolbox full of tools, bedliner, floor jack and jackpad, 5er hitch, and any other options you have on the truck.
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thanks smokeywren pulling with 2008 d-max 2500 with 1500# helper spings265/16E .think they are rated 3400#+ apice.had 3150rl montana no problem with power. would just like to take a little off tires....
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The difference in your '08 2500 and the 3500 SRW is higher rated tires/wheels and a higher rated rear spring pack. The rest of the truck is the same.
I wouldn't guess at weights if you think your close on your trucks 6084 RAWR. I would weigh the trucks front and rear axles seperatly. That way you will know if the tires are overloaded.
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thanks smokeywren pulling with 2008 d-max 2500 with 1500# helper spings265/16E .think they are rated 3400#+ apice.
Your kidding yourself. Springs, axles, tires, wheels, etc. doesn't matter. None of those things is your limiter. Your limiter is probably the GVWR of your tow vehicle, and you are grossly overloaded over the GVWR of your tow vehicle.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:48 PM   #6
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I checked OP's new 5er's numbers. I know dry weights aren't reliable but here goes. The dry pin weight is about 1400 and the dry gross weight is 11000. That makes the pin weight about 13%. That is TT hitch % not 5er. Is it safe to tow home? It will need about 1000 loaded right over the pin to get close to 20& that most consider the min. Here is what can happen with a 3/4 T PU and a BIG 5er.
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Do yourself a favor and take your truck loaded with fuel and everything you carry in it to a CAT Scale and weigh it. Now hook up the 5th wheel and go back to the cat scale and weigh each axle. with a CAT scale you can place the front axle of the truck on one section of the scale and the rear axle on another section and the 5thwheels axles on another section and weigh them for a accurate weight. Now you will know where you stand. Quite trying to guess The only way is to weigh everything. Better to be safe than sorry.
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