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Old 05-15-2019, 12:58 PM   #1
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Rear end of Trailer Low w/Towing

Just bought this used 2014 Sprinter 269FWRL, and the rear end is too Low IMHO. We took it to the dealer who moved the PIN BOX up to the highest hole pattern and the Curt is adjusted to its lowest adjustment. It helped a little but, I still would like to get it level. Someone suggested that there maybe an issue with the shackles see below. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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Your not level that is plane as day.
Crawl under and look to see if the spring handers have multiple holes in them. If so then move to the lowest holes. If not then your going to be stuck adding a sub frame to raise the trailer.
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Your not level that is plane as day.
Crawl under and look to see if the spring handers have multiple holes in them. If so then move to the lowest holes. If not then your going to be stuck adding a sub frame to raise the trailer.
Thank you Donn....I appreciate it. A crawling underneath I shall go!!
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Not as bad as some I've seen on the road but should be corrected.
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Not as bad as some I've seen on the road but should be corrected.
Thank you Mr.D...I know I have seen some pretty sagging rear ends and I just feel it is unsafe and would help improve the overall pull down the road.
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Looks like it will be worse if your truck were level too. Do you have aftermarket larger tires or a lift kit on the truck? If not, and there is nothing wrong with the 5ers springs Iím thinking the subframe May be the best option.
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Looks like it will be worse if your truck were level too. Do you have aftermarket larger tires or a lift kit on the truck? If not, and there is nothing wrong with the 5ers springs Iím thinking the subframe May be the best option.
The trucks tires are Stock. I did put a 2" leveling kit on the front only and have Air Lift Bags in the rear. I had to actually let the bags down to 10 PSI. Question: I am guessing by the name "subframe" it is exactly what it is, but I have never seen them nor heard of them., have you used these before? Simple mount on or do I need a welder?
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By subframe what Im saying is, you will have to have all the spring hangers cut off, a piece of 2x2 box tubing welded in and new hangers attached. This effectively raises the trailer. You might need a piece of 2x4 box tubing depending on how high you need to go to get things level.
? Is your truck a 2500 or 3500?
Unhitch, level the trailer front to rear, measure ground to pin. With the truck level measure the hitch to ground. That will tell you how much you need to raise the trailer.
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By subframe what Im saying is, you will have to have all the spring hangers cut off, a piece of 2x2 box tubing welded in and new hangers attached. This effectively raises the trailer. You might need a piece of 2x4 box tubing depending on how high you need to go to get things level.
? Is your truck a 2500 or 3500?
OK, I cant do that myself. LOL. Its a 2500
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Before doing anything I would load things up and got across a set of scales. I suspect you wont be pleased with the numbers.
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The trucks tires are Stock. I did put a 2" leveling kit on the front only and have Air Lift Bags in the rear. I had to actually let the bags down to 10 PSI. Question: I am guessing by the name "subframe" it is exactly what it is, but I have never seen them nor heard of them., have you used these before? Simple mount on or do I need a welder?
Just thinking here. So you raised the front of truck 2 inches so that will make the truck look like it is squatting on the rear more with the trailer on bevause the front is higher than stock.
So you basically took the front to back unloaded raking out of truck. I would take it back to stock height to get truck back level
Do you run with fresh water tank loaded? Is it aft of trailer tandems? If so unload the tank.
Anything else heavy behind the tandems that can be moved foreward on trailer?
What year is truck? All the new trucks are higher box heights.
Makes this an issue for a lot of trailers now. My 2016 F 250is two inches lower in box than brother in laws brand new chevy.
Read recently ford is lowering the box height on the Super Duty's for 2020.
My wife is 5'2" I just lowered my running boards on my truck so she can get in easier. They where 16 inches off the ground and truck is stock height. Normal step rise is 7-9 inches

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Are the axles above or below the springs? If the axles are above the springs you could move them to underneath, involves cutting off spring perches and welding new ones on. this would raise the camper quite a bit also
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Download the C.A.T. scale app to your smartphone and watch a youtube video on how to use it to weigh yourself and go use the scales to see if your weights are in line with the loading sticker on your drivers door sill. Only costs $12 for the first weigh and $2 to reweigh anytime in the next 24 hours so you can make adjustments or weigh the truck alone. As mentioned earlier it may change the scope of your issues.

It looks like that model with the weight of the hitch should put about 2500 pounds on the truck which may or may not be right at your max. Each truck is different but you certainly have a lot of squat. Check that door sticker to make sure your GCVWR and GRAWR are not exceeded.
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When I purchased a new truck, I found that the bed of the truck was almost 3 1/2" higher than the old truck... I put the trailer on jack stands and marked the frame for the spring hangers... removed the old spring hangers, installed a pieces of 2" x 3" rectangle tube with 1/4" wall... it extended 8" on each side longer than the spring hangers.... and than installed new HD spring hangers and new shackles... now my RV sits level..
BTW if you check the weight on each axle the way you now sit... I'd be a 10 spot that the rear axle is overloaded.... leveling the trailer will even out the axle weights...
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