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01-29-2013, 08:50 PM
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Location: NW AZ and Kenai Peninsula
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Whatever is over the wheels will move the least. Whatever is in back will move the most. It is leverage. Motorhome or trailer, the the rear is the greatest distance from the pivot point.
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01-29-2013, 08:59 PM
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Texas Boomers Club
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Location: Central Texas
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This is my second rear kitchen 5er and we do love that style of setup. I still have a huge side window to look out. It does seem to allow more room in both the living area and the kitchen. Now I will say it would be a good thing to have EZ Flex or a MorRyde suspension espcially if it is a longer 5er. Things do move around in the cabinets if they are not full, but have had stuff move around in our mid kitchens too. We use glass dinner ware and glasses and have used them for 3 years now, they are still there not broken, and we travel long distance over some pretty rough interstates.
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01-29-2013, 09:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Folsom, CA, USA
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Originally Posted by pops2
Why is there a phobia in regards to rear kitchens? It seems that people have told me to stay away for getting an rv that is so equipted. It is said that dishes break and trouble with an extra waste water tank and the list goes on and on and on. I am concidering such unit but now am at a quandry re this situation. If you got some advice I would be much abliged.
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I have a mid kitchen large toy hauler and a rear kitchen fiver. There is absolutely no perceptable difference between them with stuff moving around in the kitchen. Both are rolling earthquakes when going down the road. We love the roomy feeling floorplan that comes with rear kitchens and our fiver only has one grey tank BTW.
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01-30-2013, 05:28 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: On the road.
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Both of our Cardinals had / have a separate grey water tank for the kitchen and a separate grey water tank for the bathroom.
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01-31-2013, 10:20 AM
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We have a rear kitchen 5er now and like it. We used to have a mid-kitchen and didn't like the fact that we were always disturbing the cook. Our rear kitchen has a separate gray tank in the back but the potable water tank is in the middle. Our old mid-kitchen unit had one of the gray tanks in the middle and the potable tank in the back . Stuff slides around no matter where the kitchen is therefore, we don't use glass. We can access the refrigerator when the slide is in and as far as the rear view window goes, most of the time there were other RVs behind us anyhow. Even when there was a nice view out the back window, we had the chairs pointed forward and always figured that the best view was when we were outside. Just my opinion, but you get some nice things with a rear kitchen but then you have to give something up. The same as with a mid-kitchen unit...just like life IMHO
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01-31-2013, 11:37 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada
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We bought this 2004 Wilderness lite used two years ago, first rear kitchen and have had no problems, but like some say, pack appropriatly and it should be fine.
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02-02-2013, 06:55 AM
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Excel Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2008
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We traded our 2008 Excel for this new one because my DW fell in love with a rear kitchen model which we went through at the factory. I must say, with all the horror stories I had heard, I too was very skeptical about the wisdom of a rear kitchen. Thus, I talked and communicated with a number of people who had these floor plans on the Excel.
We now have 5000 miles on this unit since delivery, and have found no virtually no difference in how stuff rides from our previous mid kitchen model. We do have significant more kitchen space, due to the much deeper rear cabinets, slide out countertop area, and movable center island. It also still has the large rear windows, thus dish washing or food prep allows for a view to the outside world. This RK floor plan also includes a rear door directly into the kitchen-so groceries, happy hour apps and drinks etc-can go directly into or out of the kitchen.
I suspect frame, suspension, shocks etc all play a role. But I also think the rap on rear kitchens are many times "old tapes" that just keep going. Much like the "old tapes" one hears about traveling up to and through Alaska. "Cover your entire vehicle in bubble wrap-and don't exceed 20 mph LOL". We spent the entire spring and summer traveling Alaska two years ago, and in many cases, the roads far exceeded some of them that we have traveled in the lower 48. This included a trip across top of the world highway, to allow for a night in Chicken. No additional precautions to the truck or the previous Excel-and not one bit of damage.
So if you find a rear kitchen model you like-talk with other owners of that particular brand/model who you find in the parks or on the forums. And then make your decision. Good Luck.
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02-02-2013, 07:24 AM
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Location: HillBilly country, Smokey Mtns
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We had a 2000 Keystone Sprinter 250RKS (rear kitchen with one big slide for the dinette and sofa) for over 10 years and about 100,000 miles of RVing. We loved it. If we buy another 5er, we will insist on a rear kitchen. No problem with stuff getting broken or bouncing around. The only problem with our floorplan was the slide had to be moved out a coupla inches so we could open the bathroom door enough to get into the bathroom when on the road. There was a slide button by the front door, so that's not enough of a problem to complain about, but it was an irritant.
Our current TT has the kitchen in the middle of the RV with the bathroom in the back. Very crowded when someone is in the kitchen and someone else needs to squeeze by to get to the bathroom.
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02-02-2013, 11:11 PM
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Senior Member
Excel Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Anywhere, USA
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Ditto what Exceler BigMichael says. We traded our 2005 rear den Excel for a rear kitchen and we are loving it. No problems with packing and shifting...just had to adapt to new opening and closing procedures. And our 2d door is awesome to have too.
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02-03-2013, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Chilliwack, B.C. Canada
Posts: 483
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Thanx for all the feedback as we now have made the choice as to getting an rv with a rear Kitchen. Now it is to choose which manufacturer to get either Forest River or Keystone?
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02-03-2013, 11:42 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
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We haven't even had a chance to be on the road with it yet, but we just purchased a Cougar 331MKS ( http://www.keystonerv.com/media/37611/331MKSWE.jpg ) The kitchen area is huge with counter space galore. My wife loves that part. I fell in love with the fact that there is very little carpet in the unit. You walk in on tile and go all the way through the kitchen without ever touching carpet. I've never understood why RV manufacturers insist on putting that light colored carpet in something designed to use for "camping".
You can see some photos of our unit here:
Cougar
Have fun.
Randy
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02-03-2013, 03:46 PM
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Senior Member
National RV Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Chilliwack, B.C. Canada
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Yah that's what we had in mind but the two that has grabbed our attention is 1/ Flagstaff Classic 8528RKWS and 2/ Montana High Country 303 RK.
Maybe there is some advice about these, be much obliged.
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02-04-2013, 03:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Port Coquitlam, B.C. Canada
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Should mention our 245RK has a grey tank at back for kitchen and a grey tank mid way for bathroom and a black tank up there for toilet, fresh water tank is at the very back under kitchen.
It all seems to work well for us, I like our bathroom being upstairs outside the bedroom, with the toilet and tub/shower seperate from the bathroom sink across the hall.
Nice set up.
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