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Receptacles on one side of 5th wheel not working??
11-27-2010, 11:10 PM
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We own a 1997 Jayco Eagle. Last night, I unplugged the cord from the kitchen receptacle which was running our electric heater, and plugged in the extension cord so I could get the heater closer to me on the couch. I then discovered that the electric receptacle had suddenly stopped working.
And, the bathroom receptacle stopped working too, which is on the same side of the 5th wheel as the Kitchen receptacle.
None of the breakers in the breaker box kicked down. Even turned them all off and on and nothing happened.
The kitchen receptacle has a T for Test and an R for Reset. Pushing the Reset button does nothing at all, not even push out the Test button. The bathroom receptacle has nothing on it to push.
I have no idea what happened or what to do next. Should I change the kitchen receptacle since the buttons aren't working??
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11-28-2010, 01:29 AM
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I would bet that a wire came loose when you pulled the plug out.. or the GFCI (has the buttons) did..
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11-28-2010, 07:28 AM
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Push the Test button on the GFCI outlet - it should click and go to the depressed position. If it doesn't, it has already tripped and would kill power to itself and to all the other outlets downstream from it that it's protecting - typically, kitchen and bath outlets near water as well as outdoor outlets (although there may be more GFCI outlets protecting some of these points as well).
After pushing the Test button, push the Reset button. This ought to move the Test button back out to its active position and restore the outlets' function. If it doesn't, either a ground fault still exists somewhere in the circuit, a wire has come loose from an outlet or the GFCI is defective and must be replaced.
If the GFCI is functioning properly, recheck the breakers.
Rusty
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11-28-2010, 08:51 AM
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I would look at where you were plugged in before. You may can plug a light in where it not working and plug in where you got power and see if the light flickers or will come on. More likely a loose connection.
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11-28-2010, 07:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RustyJC
Push the Test button on the GFCI outlet - it should click and go to the depressed position. If it doesn't, it has already tripped and would kill power to itself and to all the other outlets downstream from it that it's protecting - typically, kitchen and bath outlets near water as well as outdoor outlets (although there may be more GFCI outlets protecting some of these points as well).
After pushing the Test button, push the Reset button. This ought to move the Test button back out to its active position and restore the outlets' function. If it doesn't, either a ground fault still exists somewhere in the circuit, a wire has come loose from an outlet or the GFCI is defective and must be replaced.
If the GFCI is functioning properly, recheck the breakers.
Rusty
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Hi. I pushed the Test button in, and the Reset clicks out. But when I push the Reset button, the Test button does NOT click out. What's that about?? And how to do you find a grounded wire?? Or, how do you figure out if the the GFCI is bad??
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11-28-2010, 07:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Midniteoyl
I would bet that a wire came loose when you pulled the plug out.. or the GFCI (has the buttons) did..
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Hi. I have the GFCI pulled out slightly and just touched one of the 5 wires with a screw driver, and got shocked. That implies there is something wrong with the GFCI. Anybody agree?? And the Test button just doesn't pop out.
The really weird thing is that this happened by just pulling the electric cord out, which has happened many times before. I then put in the extension cord...and nothing.
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11-28-2010, 08:19 PM
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That implies that you did not disconnect the live power to the GFI be fore working on it. A big NO NO tho the GFI may be defective.
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11-28-2010, 10:21 PM
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Hi. I have the GFCI pulled out slightly and just touched one of the 5 wires with a screw driver, and got shocked. That implies there is something wrong with the GFCI. Anybody agree??
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Depends on which wire you touched..
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11-29-2010, 08:45 AM
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GFCI outlets are no longer very expensive. Go ahead and replace it. If there's still a problem, at least you've eliminated the GFCI as a culprit and you have a spare for when one does fail.
And, please: turn off the circuit breaker before you fool around. If there's any question which breaker controls the circuit in question, disconnect the rig from shore power altogether!
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11-29-2010, 09:04 AM
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If you have an inverter, check the breakers on it. Usually there are two breakers one for each feed in the coach. Here is a picture of mine so you can get the idea.
Dick
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11-29-2010, 09:17 AM
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Like Dave said, when In doubt just pull the shore power and replace it. If it like our fiver no inverter and only two breakers for the AC.
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Update: continued problems
11-30-2010, 04:04 PM
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I bought a new GFCI receptacle. And as soon as I hook it up, the power kicks it out. The Reset button pops out.
Now what? How do I find the short?
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11-30-2010, 06:53 PM
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Wish the GFCI had been the problem. I can't give you specifics to go further 'cause I'm not smart enough, but here's a link to get you started. Hopefully, you'll find something in one of the other outlets and that there's not a problem in a wall somewhere.
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11-30-2010, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Dimes
Wish the GFCI had been the problem. I can't give you specifics to go further 'cause I'm not smart enough, but here's a link to get you started. Hopefully, you'll find something in one of the other outlets and that there's not a problem in a wall somewhere.
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Just read it. Unfortunately, it simply confirms I have a short but I can't figure out why or where. This all started when I plugged in an extension cord to the electric heater. Groan.
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