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07-11-2016, 02:07 PM
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Rim psi rating
Looking for a little help figuring out my 5th wheel rim psi. It is stamped 3960lbs but I don't know how that translates to psi. My bayhill has a gvwr of 16200 and has two 7000lb axles. I shredded 3 China bombs with less than 2000 miles on them coming home from vacation and I need to get order some tires today that are actually up to the task of getting from point a to point b! I'm not looking to replace rims so I'm trying to figure out how to convert load lbs to psi.
Thanks, Scott
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07-11-2016, 02:52 PM
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Wow, sounds like your axles are under rated for your TT.
Where did you get the GVWR?
The rims are under spec'd also for 16200
Two 7Klb axles is quite a bit shy of the 16200 you posted.
At this point the PSI rating does not make any difference.
Was something mistyped?
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07-11-2016, 03:54 PM
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Part of the weight is on the pin. My trailer is 17400 with 8K axles. Can't help but psi is supposed to be stamped on back of rim.
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07-11-2016, 06:20 PM
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07-11-2016, 06:21 PM
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07-11-2016, 06:47 PM
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Sailun Commercial Truck Tires: S637T HD ST Trailer
These were the tires I was leaning towards buying.
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07-11-2016, 06:56 PM
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Powermaker.... here's what I suggest... take your trailer to a truck stop and run your trailer across the truck scale... it will cost you from $5 to $10... have them weigh both axles together so you can understand what weight is on the ground... and than weigh each axle independently... for me... I live in a state where when the weight stations are closed... the scales and outdoor reader board is still lit... so I've been by a set of scales with the truck only, knowing the weight of each axle... than with the trailer... you'll gain a lot of information...
The max weight on the wheel is just that... I only use LT (light truck) tires on my 5er... on LT tires I went to the manufactures web site and followed the manufactured suggested air pressure to support the weight I needed... remember that on passenger tires... the rating on the side of the tire is a max rating.. on a LT and heavy truck tire, that rating is for that specific weight... and in some cases you can run more air pressure in a LT than what is on the sidewall... by following the published guideline...
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07-11-2016, 07:12 PM
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Your sticker shows 80 psi cold and if no max psi is on the rim , I'd be inclined to contact the 5er's manufacturer for the name of the rim supplier and get the psi rating directly from them. If you are re-using the rims be sure when you go to a higher psi tire that you up-grade to metal valves , rubber valves have a 65 psi limit , rubber/brass about 95 and metal are good to 200 psi.
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07-11-2016, 07:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powermaker
Looking for a little help figuring out my 5th wheel rim psi. It is stamped 3960lbs but I don't know how that translates to psi. My bayhill has a gvwr of 16200 and has two 7000lb axles. I shredded 3 China bombs with less than 2000 miles on them coming home from vacation and I need to get order some tires today that are actually up to the task of getting from point a to point b! I'm not looking to replace rims so I'm trying to figure out how to convert load lbs to psi.
Thanks, Scott
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With that weight rating your rims were clearly designed for ST tires. The ST235/85R16F is rated at 3960# at 95 PSI. However, other trailer tires such as the LT235/85R16G rated at 3750# at 110 PSI will not exceed the rim's load capacity. Depending on the MFG your rims should be size 16X6.5".
Here is a link to a common OEM rim provider of the size you have.
TR8 | Sendel Wheels
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07-11-2016, 07:18 PM
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Thanks Jelag, I would love to take the rv to the scales but I limped home on 1 spare china bomb, 1 unblown china bomb, 1 already blown china bomb(exterior is separated with a softball size bubble) and 1 new goodyear marathon that I had put on by a roadside tire guy. I'm going to either chance it the few miles to the shop or take the wheels off and take them in myself.
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2015 Evergreen Bay Hill 379FL
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07-11-2016, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip426
Your sticker shows 80 psi cold and if no max psi is on the rim , I'd be inclined to contact the 5er's manufacturer for the name of the rim supplier and get the psi rating directly from them. If you are re-using the rims be sure when you go to a higher psi tire that you up-grade to metal valves , rubber valves have a 65 psi limit , rubber/brass about 95 and metal are good to 200 psi.
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Thanks for the tip, but my manufacturer (Evergreen BayHill) went out of business 2 days after I bought the 5ver!
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07-11-2016, 07:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FastEagle
With that weight rating your rims were clearly designed for ST tires. The ST235/85R16F is rated at 3960# at 95 PSI. However, other trailer tires such as the LT235/85R16G rated at 3750# at 110 PSI will not exceed the rim's load capacity. Depending on the MFG your rims should be size 16X6.5".
Here is a link to a common OEM rim provider of the size you have.
TR8 | Sendel Wheels
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FastEagle, they are stamped 16x6.50. So in your opinion would the sailun ST235/80R16 work for my application?
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2015 Evergreen Bay Hill 379FL
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07-11-2016, 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by powermaker
FastEagle, they are stamped 16x6.50. So in your opinion would the sailun ST235/80R16 work for my application?
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Yes? Providing its the 3750# version. They also build a very similar tire with a 4080# capacity which is over the limit of your rims so it would be a judgement call to use them on the premise the actual 3960# rating would not be exceeded.
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07-11-2016, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FastEagle
Yes? Providing its the 3750# version. They also build a very similar tire with a 4080# capacity which is over the limit of your rims.
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I noticed on the link i posted that there were two different weight ratings also. the 4080# and 3640#. It says the 4080# is for "load carrying capacity single" and the 3640# is for "load carrying capacity dual". Is that referring to single vs dual axles? So there are actually 2 different ST235/80R16 model of tires? Sorry for all the questions.
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