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Old 08-26-2015, 11:30 AM   #1
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Surge Protector?

I hope this is not the wrong forum to ask this, but why do I need a surge protector? Is it a problem with rv parks, or maybe the generator?



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Old 08-26-2015, 11:43 AM   #2
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I didn't have a surge protector. Went to a camp ground and got bad voltage. It cost me the circuit board in Norcold refrig, a microwave and 2 TV's. And I thought I was safe with only a 30 amp hook up. Now I have a Progressive industries portable 50 AMP surge Protector. You never know when something is wired correctly or something else is . Dr4film has written on Irv2 about the need and his explanation is very understandable. He has a device (and I bought one) that allows you to instantly check out any camp ground pedestal. It is not the electricity at a camp ground. It is the way the wiring is run into each pedestal. safe travels...ed

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Old 08-26-2015, 11:48 AM   #3
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This is the Surge Protector I got for our MH as insurance against expensive electrical parts.
Amazon, 30 Amps or 50 Amps.
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Old 08-26-2015, 01:27 PM   #5
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It's mostly a problem with RV parks, but they can also prevent damage to your RV's electrical system or delicate electronic components from voltage spikes caused by the power company or by lightening.

Surge protectors also protect from high or low voltage, which can damage things like air conditioners. They also protect from safety hazards like missing ground or reversed polarity.
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The way I look at it, even though we all have insurance why screw up a camping trip not having the right protection. I say progressive ems hardwired
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:04 PM   #7
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Cheap "insurance" against power companies, acts of God, outdated campgrounds, etc--go with PI, or dont go at all......
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Originally Posted by 3thumbs View Post
I hope this is not the wrong forum to ask this, but why do I need a surge protector? Is it a problem with rv parks, or maybe the generator?


Well Dave. The problem is that in many parks the wires were insalled a long time ago, also they often used cheaper Aluminum wire instead of quality copper.. Back when most trailers were 20 amp (or even 15) this was not a problem but with 30 amp being the "Small RV" and 50 in the BIG ones the park's infrastructure simply can not deliver.

As power demands increase... Voltage loss in the park increases and voltage at your RV goes DOWN DOWN DOWN.

Long about 105 volts things like Air COnditioenrs can easily burn out. THus the Surge Guard (The good ones with LCD's shut you down.

Likewise, some parks in order to counter this problem will ask the power company to up the voltage a bit.. 130 is not that great for a lot of your hardware.. So again it shuts you down.

There are other things it can monitor as well.

And we often see threads here that start out with: "I plugged into a 30 amp outlet in my buddy's garague and ....."

Bad things happend because that outlet was not an TT-30 for an RV but rather a Welder or other equipment outglet 240 volt . A surge guard would have prevented damage.

They do other things too. But those are the big ones.

500 For a surge protector (high price) 1000 for an A/C (I have 2q of ofthose) My choice.. Surge guard.
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TRC Surge Guard units only have a 1 year warranty. Progressive Industries units have a Lifetime warranty.

In my book, any company that warrants for lifetime must be using the best quality components. Yes, Progressive Industries is a little more expensive but you get what you pay for!

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You have almost NO CONTROL what is coming down the power line. This is a very inexpensive and very efficient protection device. Get one permanently installed, then happy camping with one less thing to worry about.
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The only draw back I have is when boondocking and you want to fire up the genny to run the microwave for 2 minutes, you have to wait 2 minutes for the gurge protector to analyze the power and bring into the rv. But it is good insurance and worth the inconvenience.
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My progressive quietly goes about its business year after year, and one day at a campground, power to the coach would randomly just drop out. WTH?

I goes to check my SurgeGuard (reminds me now I think of it like the new ADT commercials, actor standing guard out front, telling the surges and spikes creeping upon with nefarious intent, "Don't even try it....."

Oh, crap, mission creep and off target. Where was I......

Oh yeah. So I check the Progressive's surge guard display and tells me not only that it took action to save my bacon (so can be cooked later via functional systems), but why.

Very simple observation myself, so I went and got mister, "That's our 50 amp row; gee can't nuthin be all sideways in that row," over for a class on brownouts. That row was not adequate to be stacked with loaded for bear 50 amp coaches. We moved.

Later that evening another large A wheelied into position, and a short period later, fired up ye olde diesel, and whaddya know, relocated to a much leaner row also. Ummm hmmmm. Same as us, pull in and hook up and system shows clean power in spec, life is good, a Ferrari in every driveway and butterflies abound. Then that just right combination of rigs and loads fires up, and pulls your power stack into the weeds, even though ya diligently checked power, polarity, ground, voltage, frequency, favorite color, and whatever else when ya landed. Now them fictitious Ferraris and butterflies look like recycleligibles amongst swarms of hornets in badly directed B movie.

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I've been RV'ing since 1957, never had a surge protector in all that time and have never lost an electrical item to low voltage or high voltage or even a surge. The present rig does have one built in though. Might be glad we have it someday though.
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I have had life insurance since the early 60s but have never had the chance to use it--but I still carry some anyway--go figure??? Lots of debate about where best to install the S/P--before or after the xfer switch. While I agree the genny could fail too, my main concern is protection from shore-power issues. I also like the idea that if for some reason my S/P failed [eg, I bought a Surge Guard Vs a Progressive Industries product], I would still be able to limp home on the genny Vs having an on the road "fix it".....
PS--installing it before the x-fer switch eliminates the need to wait an additional two minutes [more like 20 seconds with PI] for you coffee....

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