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Old 03-28-2015, 04:05 PM   #1
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Thinking of buying a fifth wheel

I have a chance to buy a Cardinal 3802 by Forest River. It is a package deal as it comes with a 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 diesel DRW truck. Truck has about 15,000 miles and is the LTZ model. The 5er has a nice layout with the two bathrooms and bunk room. Not a lot of living room space but I'm ok with that. Owner says he didn't use it a lot. So he is asking 75K Canadian for both. As I'm not familiar with Cardinal what is the opinion here on the forum?
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Old 03-28-2015, 05:42 PM   #2
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Here is a sight that will tell you what they are worth

Just google N.A.D.A. and type your information in...This deal being as you say a package deal should be lower in price then the N.A.D.A numbers...
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You don't say what year the Cardinal is so it's impossible to say whether it's a good deal or not. You might also say what the price would be in US$. IMO, Cardinals are a good quality fiver, but it would have to be a very late model to be worth as much as you're saying.
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Old 03-28-2015, 11:30 PM   #4
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$79 Canadian is $59K U.S. The C3500 is about a $38,000 truck, which would mean they're getting about $21K U.S. for the Cardinal fifth wheel.

The Cardinal is a very popular fifth wheel trailer, and it's a much nicer than average full size fifth wheel trailer. You'd be making a very advantageous purchase at these prices.
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You're right I forgot to mention the Cardinal is 2010. Five slides so I hope there won't be an issue with those. With NADA I found the pricing to be very generous but I could use it as a starting point. The Canadian to US dollar exchange right now is a whopping $1.29. I think the days of parity are gone but it was good while it lasted. I do know looking at the tires on both the TV and 5er I will need to replace those, I'm guessing in the 2-3000 dollar mark and will also have to pay the 13% harmonized sales tax on both vehicles. I think could earn a few dollars hauling trailers and boats locally so that will help offset the cost a bit. Anyway, more to think on. Thanks for your input.

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GST and HST--but what is the "harmonized" sales tax? Or is that the H in HST?
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The harmonized sales tax or HST combines the provincial sales tax or PST and the goods and services tax or GST into one. It makes it easier for businesses to charge one tax at the cash register and at tax time. Not all provinces do it this way but some do. Gotta pay for that "free healthcare" somehow...lol.
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Thanks. On our trip thru CA in '12, sure got tired of seeing those big add-ons...
Gonna try again to shore up the Canadian economy in '16.
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A Note on those 5 slides in that Cardinal.
We have a 2009 Cardinal, and had a SERIOUS slide problem last year. Turned out that one of the rollers which the slide rails move on wasn't rolling, so the rail was sliding on it instead. I won't go into the details here, but check out all slides and if any of them move with a jerky motion, pass on that unit. When the rollers are rolling properly, movement will be smooth.
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As a Former Cardinal owner (2010 - 3150), I found that on my model the frame was't stiff enough to keep the house from flexing. Otherwise we really liked the unit.

I would consider going to:
Forest River Owners Group = FROG - Forest River Owners Group

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Cardinal RV Club = Cardinal RV Club • Index page

Ask questions there.
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Old 04-02-2015, 11:28 AM   #11
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Shopping for new 5th Wheel hitch

I currently have a Reese 16K hitch in my truck...Last month I bought a new 5th wheel that is 19,000 pounds so a heavier hitch is needed...I have been looking at Curt Q24 hitches they are rated at 24,000 pounds and they are also within my 5th wheels pin weight rating...Do any of you have any knowledge pro or con about these hitches?
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The B&W has the same locking jaws as the Brinkley 32k head. They are massive. Much better choice. Cost more too
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