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Old 02-26-2012, 08:08 AM   #1
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Tire / Wheel up-grade

Any one have any thoughts about upgrading the wheels and tires on my Cameo 34SB3. I'm thinking about going to a wheel capable of withstanding 110 PS I and going with a 14 ply tire. The attached picture is the reason.

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I went on up to a 17.5" wheel and H rated (16 ply) rated tire and wheel with Goodyear G-114, 215/75R17.5. The load range E on the 16" wheels are not enough tire for the load. Since you will have to upgrade the wheel for the pressure, go ahead and get 17.5" wheels. The above tires are almost the same rolling diameter as the E tires and will not cause any issues with clearance.

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Scott @ Sparks, Inc. dba: www.trailertiresandwheels.com
Phone: 419.272.2277

They have a good price and are very helpful. Mounted tires with wheels will be shipped ready to mount.

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Old 02-26-2012, 09:45 AM   #3
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I did the 16 to 17.5" upgrade back in '07 from the same source Ken mentions--one of the best upgrades anyone can do for safety. The 17.5" Load Range J (4805lbs) were the same height and slightly NARROWER than the 16" Goodyear G614s and a perfect fit. No problems/flats in 5 towing seasons, probably 30000 miles.
They will ship mounted/balanced anywhere, but I chose to go there when I was in the area and pick the set up. The cost is around $2000 for a complete changeout.
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Need Advice on Tire upgrade

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I went on up to a 17.5" wheel and H rated (16 ply) rated tire and wheel with Goodyear G-114, 215/75R17.5. The load range E on the 16" wheels are not enough tire for the load. Since you will have to upgrade the wheel for the pressure, go ahead and get 17.5" wheels. The above tires are almost the same rolling diameter as the E tires and will not cause any issues with clearance.

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Scott @ Sparks, Inc. dba: www.trailertiresandwheels.com
Phone: 419.272.2277

They have a good price and are very helpful. Mounted tires with wheels will be shipped ready to mount.

And welcome to iRV2.

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I have a 32 foot 5th Wheel, that tops out at 11,300. I am currently using LT215 85R16 M+S Load Range E. (6 bolt pattern) All four tires need to be replaced. Do you know if I were to upgrade to a 17.5 Rim, that I would be able to get the larger rims in the 6 bolt pattern? I like the idea of the 4,000 plus load for each tire? I went to the above link you listed, but I could not find the 6 bolt pattern in the larger size? I will probably have to call them during buisness hours.

Any advice you could shoot my way would be most helpful.

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Old 02-26-2012, 08:26 PM   #5
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In the 6 bolt pattern, you may be able to use the 16" in a load range G. Call and talk to Scott.

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Thanks so very much. I will call and ask for Scott.
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IMO your 11xxx lb 5th wheel isn't a good candidate for a 4000 lb rated tire. Those heavy tires are better served under a heavy trailer.

I use LT215/85-16 E at 2680 lbs on my 11200 lb 5er. Ran the first set for 7 years and 55000 miles. Currently have approx 25k on the second set of same size/brand LT tires. My pin weight is 2200 lbs which leaves my trailers axles carrying approx 9000 lbs.

You will be better served with the same size or a LT235/85-16 E at 3042 lbs of capacity. Bigger tires require more room under the trailer wheel well so do your homework on clearance issues.
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IMO your 11xxx lb 5th wheel isn't a good candidate for a 4000 lb rated tire. Those heavy tires are better served under a heavy trailer.

I use LT215/85-16 E at 2680 lbs on my 11200 lb 5er. Ran the first set for 7 years and 55000 miles. Currently have approx 25k on the second set of same size/brand LT tires. My pin weight is 2200 lbs which leaves my trailers axles carrying approx 9000 lbs.

You will be better served with the same size or a LT235/85-16 E at 3042 lbs of capacity. Bigger tires require more room under the trailer wheel well so do your homework on clearance issues.
Thank you for the advice, I will measure and check out the clearance.
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Thanks guys, great advise. Here's the deal. I was about 300 miles from home , when a tire blew. While changing it I noticed a chunk of rubber out of another one. I bought this 5 wheel new, in Dec. 2010, it has about 4k miles on it. I was in a small town in Louisiana without much of a choice of places to buy tires, so I bought 14 ply. I knew I was taking a chance putting the 110 psi rated tires on 85 PSI rims. I did anyway and put 85 PS I in the tires. I finished my trip and I'm home now with no additional problems. And by the way, the tire manufacture had already replaced one tire that had a large bilster on it.
So today I'm going to order 4 wheels (110 PS I rated) and put the new tires on them.
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I spoke with Scott at Trailer Tires and Wheels. I sent him photos of my rig, the current tires and the clearances we need to work with. I am going to do a conversion with him and go with G614's (Good Year) each tire is rated at 3750 lbs. so I am very happy about that and with my rigs clearances the tires will work well. As well I am swapping out my steel rims to a rim that is still a 6 bolt patter but rated shell capacity for the tire I am converting to.

I am going to keep the old tires on the steel rims to store the rig on when I am not towing. By swapping out the tire in-be-tween uses if there are longs periods of time the new tires should last me for a long, long time.

I will have to keep the forum posted on my conversion and I will post pictures.
Thanks TXiceman for suggesting the link and Scott. Great team of people and you can't beat the pricing and shipping.
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"IMO your 11xxx lb 5th wheel isn't a good candidate for a 4000 lb rated tire. Those heavy tires are better served under a heavy trailer."

Going from the 16" Goodyear/steel wheel to 17.5" Michelins/aluminum rims, each tire/wheel weighed less, wasn't any higher and was slightly NARROWER than the originals.
This was a win/win deal all the way...
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just ordered my 17.5" aluminum wheels from shadow trailer parts, free shipping. I will be using the 215 75r 17.5 cooper roadmaster tires. Just couldn't bring myself to buy another goodyear g164. Will have the upgrade complete before the camping season begins in northeast ohio. Oh yeah, anyone looking for a good st of chrome steel 16" 8 lug wheels with g164 goodyear tires.
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We replaced the 16" wheels and carlisle tires on our Fuzion 360 with 17.5 wheels and GY g-114s BEFORE the first trip. The options for same size 16" tires of the same weight carrying capacity was two tires. Carlisle or GY g614. It is possible to put an LT tire of the same size. However, going down in load capacity is not a good idea. Based on the replacement tire options in an emergency situation, We felt the 17.5 tires and wheels, though an expensive initial investment, will provide peace of mind after having several OEM tires on previous rvs fail within a few thousand miles. Peace of mind and reliability---priceless.
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