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Old 03-21-2012, 10:52 AM   #1
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OK I know this has been asked a lot . Took the cover off the 5th wheel on the weekend. Checked the tires 1 is starting to crack on the sidewall.They're
Goodyear Marathons but are only 3years old according to the date code on the tire. We will be putting on 12000 miles this summer traveling to Alaska & back.
Is it advisable to just change 1 tire or replace all 4 with the same tire or go to a
LT tire? I've looked at goodyear G614's they are a little pricey but would they give us peace of mind. Loaded Trailer is 14,000 lbs with 6,000 lb axles.
Any advice would be appreciated.

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After a damaging blowout ($1600 to 5vr plus $1200 for new tires)last year (less than a year old Marathons; less than 4k miles and about 13k loaded weight), I luckily found a set of Michelin LT's in Farmington, NM. Blowout was near Cuba, NM - calm, sunny 80*f; good road surface, no debris; 65 mph. Goodyear said tire was too damaged to determine if it was defective (Duh!!!) and refused my claim. I will NEVER own another Marathon tire and probably not another Goodyear even though they were my tire of choice for my Corovettes (Eagles) and K5 Blazers (Wranglers). I would not, after my experience with Marathons, recommend traveling any distance at any highway speed on them.

BTW I am very satisfied with the Michelins on my 5vr, my TV (OEM on 2011 3500HD GMC) and DW's Tahoe.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:25 AM   #3
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Change all 5. Install Michelin XPS Rib or BF Goodrich Commercial TA And go to Alaska secure in the knowledge that you have the best tire option available.
The problem with the GY G614 is that they require 110PSI to be at maximum load capacity and your wheels are probably only rated to 80PSI.
The next best solution is to install 17.5 inch tire and wheel package and never have to worry about tire problems again.
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After a number of tread seperations (Goodyear Wrangler LT) on my triple axle 5er (also same problem on TV) went to michelins and haven't had a problem since. (this is a case of getting what you pay for). Inner liner would leak air under tread and and thus tread would let go.
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I have decided to go with the LT235/85R16 LRG Goodyear G614's mounted on a heavy duty 16X6 655 heavy duty rim for greater shell capacity as I cannot due the 17's with clearance issues.
Shipped to my area fully mounted and balanced I am paying $1784. I did not thing that was bad at all. Not expecting to have tread issues so if any of you have run this exact tire let me know your experience.
I plan on pulling them off and throwing the old factory tires on the rig for storage to keep the replacement tires prime. May be allot of work but in my book worth it.

I do agree with the other suggestions that you should do all if one is cracked and all are same age
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I have decided to go with the LT235/85R16 LRG Goodyear G614's mounted on a heavy duty 16X6 655 heavy duty rim for greater shell capacity as I cannot due the 17's with clearance issues.
Shipped to my area fully mounted and balanced I am paying $1784. I did not thing that was bad at all. Not expecting to have tread issues so if any of you have run this exact tire let me know your experience.
I plan on pulling them off and throwing the old factory tires on the rig for storage to keep the replacement tires prime. May be allot of work but in my book worth it.

I do agree with the other suggestions that you should do all if one is cracked and all are same age
Clearance issues? You can get 17.5 inch in nearly the same diameter as your OE tires.
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The 17.5" Michelin XTAs (rated 4805 lbs @ 120 PSIG) on my rig are 1/2" shorter in diameter than the 16" Goodyear G614 RSTs (rated 3750 lbs @ 110 PSIG) that came on it and were replaced after 2 tread separations. What clearance issues????

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We don't have a 5er but have a friend that does and he just replaced his with the same concerns. One looked bad, the others looked OK and were all of the same vintage. He had seen damage done to other 5er's when a tire blows out and just wanted the piece of mind with four fresh skins on his rig. That's not to say that it couldn't happen with new tires but if their inflated properly it's less likely to happen unless you hit something in the road which is uncotrollable anyway. As seems to be suggested already I think I would replace them all. JMHO
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OK I know this has been asked a lot . Took the cover off the 5th wheel on the weekend. Checked the tires 1 is starting to crack on the sidewall.They're
Goodyear Marathons but are only 3years old according to the date code on the tire. We will be putting on 12000 miles this summer traveling to Alaska & back.
Is it advisable to just change 1 tire or replace all 4 with the same tire or go to a
LT tire? I've looked at goodyear G614's they are a little pricey but would they give us peace of mind. Loaded Trailer is 14,000 lbs with 6,000 lb axles.
Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks
I donít think I would take a 12,000 mile trip up to Alaska with shallow tread tires. And thatís what all ST tires are. Even the GY G614 has the shallow treads.

Take a look at the reference below and ask your trailer manufacturer what they think about that kind of upgrade for your trip. I think the tireís durability and deep threads are well worth some investigation. The increased load capacity will provide some really nice load capacity reserves on the 6000# axle.

http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/detail/ry103


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After a damaging blowout ($1600 to 5vr plus $1200 for new tires)last year (less than a year old Marathons; less than 4k miles and about 13k loaded weight), I luckily found a set of Michelin LT's in Farmington, NM. Blowout was near Cuba, NM - calm, sunny 80*f; good road surface, no debris; 65 mph. Goodyear said tire was too damaged to determine if it was defective (Duh!!!) and refused my claim. I will NEVER own another Marathon tire and probably not another Goodyear even though they were my tire of choice for my Corovettes (Eagles) and K5 Blazers (Wranglers). I would not, after my experience with Marathons, recommend traveling any distance at any highway speed on them.

BTW I am very satisfied with the Michelins on my 5vr, my TV (OEM on 2011 3500HD GMC) and DW's Tahoe.
I've had marathons, Sorry tire. Replace all your tires, You get what you pay for. No 5er now, but I have made the trip to Alaska towing and you should prepare your fiver for the trip. Don't skimp on tires. You'll be happy with your decision while on your trip. Good luck and enjoy that trip. Safe travels
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With a trailer weight of 14k on 6k axles, LT235/85R16 tires will do the job. I put Bridgestone Duravis 500s on mine to replace the bad OEM Missions. IMHO, G614s are overkill for a 14k 5th wheel.
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Thanks for all the info. Ordered 5 Michelin XPS ribs yesterday.
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The XPS Rib is an excellent commercial grade all steel radial construction tire if the load ranges and limited available sizes will fit one's requirements. I used them successfully as replacements on a 36' 13,500 lb GVWR Jayco Designer XL 3610RLTS 5th wheel for years.

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