|
|
06-17-2016, 09:22 AM
|
#1
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 5
|
tires
mobile scout tires
|
|
|
|
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!
iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!
You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!
|
06-17-2016, 11:05 AM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Texas Boomers Club
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Somewhere in the lower 48
Posts: 2,308
|
what is it you want to know? please elaborate.
__________________
John, Joyce and Zoie (our 17# Guard Dog)
2018 Ford F-450 KR / 2019 Mobile Suites 40KSSB4
Fulltiming since 2008 and loving it
|
|
|
06-19-2016, 08:07 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Huntsville, AL/Helen, GA
Posts: 1,566
|
I never heard of them, and they'd be something I'd avoid.
Only great quality tires go on my camper--LT/E or G rated ribbed tires.
|
|
|
06-24-2016, 06:52 AM
|
#4
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 5
|
Tires
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bamaman
I never heard of them, and they'd be something I'd avoid.
Only great quality tires go on my camper--LT/E or G ratd ribbed tires.
|
What brand of Lt 235/80/16e
|
|
|
06-24-2016, 09:36 AM
|
#5
|
Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 50
|
I found a Michelin RV tire site online which are LTs. These are beefy tires. Their outer diameter is much greater than the tires that came with our RV. They also have better sidewall protection and greater tread life. Also, they weigh about 13lbs more than the original tires we had. Done with blowouts hopefully! G rated is the way to go though. Also need to check the date the tire was manufactured to know the exact age of the tires.
__________________
Fayne and Bonnie
2016 F-350 4WD Crew Cab 6.7 Diesel SRW
2013 Keystone Outback Sydney 5th Wheel 331FRK
|
|
|
06-24-2016, 07:38 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,244
|
The best LT E tires will be either the Bridgestone R-250 or the Michelin XPS Rib tires.
Both are a commercial grade all steel ply carcass and weigh in the 56-58 lb range.
The R-250 are less costly.
Fabric carcass LT E tires like the;
Firestone Transforce HT...
Goodyear Wrangler HT...
BFG Commercial T/A 2...
Cooper Discoverer HT-3...
All are tops for trailers with 6k axles and smaller.
__________________
'03 Dodge 2500 Cummins HO 3.73 NV5600 Jacobs
'98 3500 DRW 454 4x4 4.10 crew cab
'97 Park Avanue RK 28' 2 slides
|
|
|
06-26-2016, 05:34 AM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Huntsville, AL/Helen, GA
Posts: 1,566
|
When I replaced my Westlakes with Bridgestone Duravis R250's, I couldn't believe the difference. The R250's sidewalls are 1" thick approx., and the tire was pushing 20 lbs. heavier.
It's hard to believe that the NHTSA has the featherweight ST tires made in China rated substantially heavier than my LT/E tires. I question whether this government agency is looking out for their citizens on the highways trying to exist with boats, RV's and horse trailers with all their junk tires.
After I sold my Westlakes, it cost me $600 for peace of mind.
FYI: Duravis R250's are often used on 1 ton trucks with utility bodies and small cranes. The Costco manager told me he's never seen a tire failure on that tire, and they might get as many as 150K miles on a truck. For a 3/4 ton pickup or one used on the highway they also have a R500 tread pattern that suits most people's needs better than a ribbed tire used on trailers.
|
|
|
06-26-2016, 10:17 AM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 122
|
tires
A question I have wondered, will dealers allow you to upgrade before buying so that you only have to pay the difference instead of " throwing away" the cheap OEM tires? ( or will the tire dealer give you anything for the OEM tires.) Planning on buying a fifth wheel in the future and knew I would replace the cheap China tires soon
|
|
|
06-26-2016, 11:55 PM
|
#9
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,536
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcabe1
What brand of Lt 235/80/16e
|
LT tires are not available in size LT235/80R16E or lower load ranges. So to stick with 16” rims most will have to go with LRG 16” LT tires. You will find “do-it-yourselfers” that will recommend and/or use replacement tires with less load capacity than the OE tires provide but you will have to search high and low (mostly low) to find a reputable tire dealer to do it. It’s against tire industry standards.
|
|
|
06-27-2016, 12:09 AM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,536
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry Mac01
A question I have wondered, will dealers allow you to upgrade before buying so that you only have to pay the difference instead of " throwing away" the cheap OEM tires? ( or will the tire dealer give you anything for the OEM tires.) Planning on buying a fifth wheel in the future and knew I would replace the cheap China tires soon
|
It’s hard to say what a dealer will do to get a sale. If they have a solid contractual agreement with the trailer manufacturer I doubt they would risk it. Before the papers are signed their hands are pretty much tied to the manufacturers responsibilities. The trailer manufacturer is the one that would have to OK the certification label change.
Some manufacturer’s have models where optional tires are offered.
One must understand the responsibilities of vehicle certification. There are severe monitory penalties that can be imposed on the vehicle manufacturer for safety violations, especially if they trigger a vehicle recall.
|
|
|
07-04-2016, 04:44 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 305
|
tires
just a question, what are the difference between a duravis r250 and marathon goodyear tire? duravis is a 16inch tire and i believe the goodyear are 15,s
|
|
|
07-05-2016, 02:33 AM
|
#12
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,536
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by outbackmac
just a question, what are the difference between a duravis r250 and marathon goodyear tire? duravis is a 16inch tire and i believe the goodyear are 15,s
|
The Bridgestone Duravis is a steel cased tire designed for Light Truck service and has a maximum load capacity of 3042# @ 80 PSI in the 16” size. The GY marathon is a polyester cased tire designed strictly for trailer axle service. A GY size 15” has a maximum load capacity of 2540# @ 65 PSI. From other brand names a 15” can have a load capacity of 2830# @ 80 psi.
|
|
|
07-05-2016, 06:23 AM
|
#13
|
Junior Member
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 5
|
Any problems with the GY Marathon tires?
|
|
|
07-05-2016, 07:28 AM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
Commercial Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Akron, Ohio
Posts: 2,785
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bamaman
When I replaced my Westlakes with Bridgestone Duravis R250's, I couldn't believe the difference. The R250's sidewalls are 1" thick approx., and the tire was pushing 20 lbs. heavier.
It's hard to believe that the NHTSA has the featherweight ST tires made in China rated substantially heavier than my LT/E tires. I question whether this government agency is looking out for their citizens on the highways trying to exist with boats, RV's and horse trailers with all their junk tires.
After I sold my Westlakes, it cost me $600 for peace of mind.
FYI: Duravis R250's are often used on 1 ton trucks with utility bodies and small cranes. The Costco manager told me he's never seen a tire failure on that tire, and they might get as many as 150K miles on a truck. For a 3/4 ton pickup or one used on the highway they also have a R500 tread pattern that suits most people's needs better than a ribbed tire used on trailers.
|
Sorry but it isn't the "Big Bad Government" that established load capacity (not weight) of different size & type tires. Either US Tire & Rim Association or European or Asian equivalent are the folks that publish the Load Inflation guide tables. The same size/type tire carries almost identical load in all three standards (Metric vs inch conversion and rounding is major reason the numbers are not identical.)
It is your RV company that is responsible for selecting the tires that go on your RV. They are the ones that demonstrate little interest in providing a margin in either load capacity or long term durability of the product they sell. It appears that they are the ones placing profit over " looking out for their citizens"/customers.
I think you need to ask your RV company that question of why they select the bare minimum that meets the regulations. Cars and trucks come with tires that are engineered for the specific application and only selected after demonstrating significant performance advantages over other tires. IMO the only thing considered in the RV industry is with a few exceptions lowest cost.
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Eng. 40+ years experience. Recognized in the industry and in court as an expert in failed tire inspection as I have performed thousands of failed tire "autopsies".
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|